Starter removal on a '78
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- rich3389
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Starter removal on a '78
I am trying to remove the starter from my '78...I have the exhaust removed and the shifter...It seems that the exhaust manifold stud is the only thing stopping the starter from being removed all the way.
Unfortunately I am unable to get the stud removed from the head, I tried double and triple nutting it, vice grips, heat, etc and the thing wont budge!
Is there any secret to getting this thing out without removing the exhaust stud?
Unfortunately I am unable to get the stud removed from the head, I tried double and triple nutting it, vice grips, heat, etc and the thing wont budge!
Is there any secret to getting this thing out without removing the exhaust stud?
1978 GL1000
- Lucien Harpress
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
Sadly, no. At least on my '77, the exhaust stud has to come out. Have you tried an overnight PB Blaster soak?
(I could be wrong, but I seem to remember an alternate method of starter removal on another site- rather than pulling the entire starter motor off, you basically dis-assembled it first, and took it off in pieces. Not sure if you'd still need to remove the stud, and having never done it myself I am NOT advocating it. Proceed at your own risk)
(I could be wrong, but I seem to remember an alternate method of starter removal on another site- rather than pulling the entire starter motor off, you basically dis-assembled it first, and took it off in pieces. Not sure if you'd still need to remove the stud, and having never done it myself I am NOT advocating it. Proceed at your own risk)
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
I have the same problem with mine, (77) rather than risk twisting the stud off I removed the header, the shift lever and the removable side of the frame. the starter comes out ok then. A lot of extra work but all you loose is time. if I ever have the motor out again so I can turn it upside down I will replace the stud, but chances are I will croak before that is necessary. just reworked the starter last year and it should be good for another 20. I doubt if I will.
i finally made it past the junkyard dogs!!
- rich3389
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
What all is involved in removing the side of the frame?backyardbob wrote:I have the same problem with mine, (77) rather than risk twisting the stud off I removed the header, the shift lever and the removable side of the frame. the starter comes out ok then. A lot of extra work but all you loose is time. if I ever have the motor out again so I can turn it upside down I will replace the stud, but chances are I will croak before that is necessary. just reworked the starter last year and it should be good for another 20. I doubt if I will.
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
rich3389 wrote: What all is involved in removing the side of the frame?
This shows how it is mounted and the bolts that need to be removed to take it off. It isn't too bad. http://www.servicehondapsn.com/fiche_se ... veh=132887
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
two bolts at the front of the removable member, two at the back, lower front engine bolt nut, rear lower engine bolt.
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
The best part about removing the subframe is getting it back in. I did it on my 1200, and it's about 5 different bolts that need to line up in a space of about a foot, half of which you can't see.
Doable, but very "fun".
Doable, but very "fun".
1997 Valkyrie- Light Cutomization, but Too Busy Riding
1980 KZ1300- Bike's Haunted
1976 GL1000 (Yellow)- It Runs (Poorly) and Doesn't Leak (Mostly)
1974 Velosolex 3800- Better Than Walking
1972 CB750- Broke the Chain And Ate the Motor
1969 CT90- The Most Fun You Can Have on 90ccs.
1965 CA77 Dream- Needs a Full Teardown, but Complete
All advice I give is only valid until an expert corrects me.
1980 KZ1300- Bike's Haunted
1976 GL1000 (Yellow)- It Runs (Poorly) and Doesn't Leak (Mostly)
1974 Velosolex 3800- Better Than Walking
1972 CB750- Broke the Chain And Ate the Motor
1969 CT90- The Most Fun You Can Have on 90ccs.
1965 CA77 Dream- Needs a Full Teardown, but Complete
All advice I give is only valid until an expert corrects me.
- rich3389
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
OK got the starter out! I removed the subframe like advised and it came right out.
So I took it apart and cleaned it up and re-greased it and it now starts like a new bike!
So I took it apart and cleaned it up and re-greased it and it now starts like a new bike!
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
Good to hear
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- rnelson
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
Nice work!
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Re: Starter removal on a '78
Way to go. That starter removal is an aggravation that a lot of us have experienced. Feel free to take a couple of bows.
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'75 GL1000 (Feb 2012 BOTM)
2014 Softail Deluxe
1966 Suzuki S 32-2 Olympian
The craftsman is proud of what he has made, and cherishes it, while the consumer discards things that are perfectly serviceable in his restless pursuit of the new." Richard Sennett as quoted by Matthew B. Crawford in Shop Class as Soulcraft
Working on your own motorcycle is half of the fun...it's also half of the problem.
First Fire on Youtube!
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