My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer/ Bobber with a kick
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
They were pretty darn easy...drill a hole in the handlebar to get the wire out (mine come out of the tubes just after the control), feed the wires through, then tighten up the base of the light. There is a rubber barrel that tightens as you turn them, much like how a bar end weight works.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Bit of an update for you all...got my injectors mounted in the throttle bodies and the rails sitting on top of them. They are starting to look like they belong!
I also got some of these to go on top of the Jenvey's....need to get spacers to clear the rails for the base plate.
I need the above parts to make this work:
One thing I am curious about. These base plates have a hole in the middle of them.
Being that my Jenvey's will have individual spacers on the top of them to clear the fuel rail, wouldn't I want to put a patch over the hole so as not be there? I should think all if I left it, a great deal of my boost pressure would escape out of this hole.
What do you all think?
I also got some of these to go on top of the Jenvey's....need to get spacers to clear the rails for the base plate.
I need the above parts to make this work:
One thing I am curious about. These base plates have a hole in the middle of them.
Being that my Jenvey's will have individual spacers on the top of them to clear the fuel rail, wouldn't I want to put a patch over the hole so as not be there? I should think all if I left it, a great deal of my boost pressure would escape out of this hole.
What do you all think?
Last edited by wingrider on Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Where'd did you get the parts??? You're holding back on us! Zat one of HOTT's??
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Yep, holding out a little....HOTT had something to do with that manifold...Let's just say that I know it works!
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
So, I have been trying to make all this stuff fit together.
I knew I needed spacers above my throttle bodies for the airfilter base. My fuel rail is about 7/16" proud of the surface of the TB's.
While pondering what type of spacer to make, I find these fancy 5/8" spacers that should do the trick.
They should have worked great! Except, they don't carry them anymore! The owner wanted to substitute 1" spacers, which I figured I could cut in half, so I only got a pair of them.
At this point, I realize that they do not bolt up to the top of Jenvey's. They are designed to go under Weber carbs, which I mistook to mean that they would fit the Jenvey's. I had forgot that the Jenvey's lower mount was different than the top.
So, what to do...guess we will modify the spacers to work!
If you look close, you can see the old holes that I cut off, and drilled new holes to match up with the tops of the Jenvey's.
Now I can cut these 1" spacers and level them off, and then I get to drill new holes in the filter bases, as those do not line up either!
Seems Webers are a tad different....
This project has certainly shown that things can be close, but not quite the same.
Hopefully this part will be done soon, then I can move on to the turbo piping!
I knew I needed spacers above my throttle bodies for the airfilter base. My fuel rail is about 7/16" proud of the surface of the TB's.
While pondering what type of spacer to make, I find these fancy 5/8" spacers that should do the trick.
They should have worked great! Except, they don't carry them anymore! The owner wanted to substitute 1" spacers, which I figured I could cut in half, so I only got a pair of them.
At this point, I realize that they do not bolt up to the top of Jenvey's. They are designed to go under Weber carbs, which I mistook to mean that they would fit the Jenvey's. I had forgot that the Jenvey's lower mount was different than the top.
So, what to do...guess we will modify the spacers to work!
If you look close, you can see the old holes that I cut off, and drilled new holes to match up with the tops of the Jenvey's.
Now I can cut these 1" spacers and level them off, and then I get to drill new holes in the filter bases, as those do not line up either!
Seems Webers are a tad different....
This project has certainly shown that things can be close, but not quite the same.
Hopefully this part will be done soon, then I can move on to the turbo piping!
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Alrighty!
Small update to be had. Got over to my brother in laws place where my bandsaw is, and after a bit of a story, got my spacers cut in half. I foolishly let him help me cut them, so needless to say, one of my spacers went flying across the shop before we did things my way.
I had to change the bolts that held the fuel rail on, as they hit the air filter base, so shorter ones were gotten, and after modifying 32 holes in the 4 gaskets I have to go underneath and and on top of the spacers, I ended up with this:
I am liking how it all fits together!
Now I can fill the voids in the spacers, and polish those up, then weld the inside of the aircleaner shut, and then they can be mounted on the bike!
Will have to see how bad these pressure hats interfere with the side covers...a bit of a modification might be needed.
Small update to be had. Got over to my brother in laws place where my bandsaw is, and after a bit of a story, got my spacers cut in half. I foolishly let him help me cut them, so needless to say, one of my spacers went flying across the shop before we did things my way.
I had to change the bolts that held the fuel rail on, as they hit the air filter base, so shorter ones were gotten, and after modifying 32 holes in the 4 gaskets I have to go underneath and and on top of the spacers, I ended up with this:
I am liking how it all fits together!
Now I can fill the voids in the spacers, and polish those up, then weld the inside of the aircleaner shut, and then they can be mounted on the bike!
Will have to see how bad these pressure hats interfere with the side covers...a bit of a modification might be needed.
Last edited by wingrider on Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
this is going to be epic..
1982 1100 standard. (sold)
1986 Yamaha FJ1200
2000 Yamaha Roadstar
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.
2019 Can-Am ryker (boss's new ride)
2002 Shadow American Classic(sold)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1986 Yamaha FJ1200
2000 Yamaha Roadstar
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.
2019 Can-Am ryker (boss's new ride)
2002 Shadow American Classic(sold)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Alrighty, a little update. I ended up purchasing a nice little Lincoln welder to do the little bit of aluminum welding that I needed to do. While I waited for it to come, I thought I would pick up some aluminum brazing rod and see if I could fill in the cavities in my spacers. Needless to say, it mostly didn't work out.
Here is one of the best ones:
The rest of them didn't work out as well, so I left them be before something bad happened. I kind of let this go, as you don't really see them while they are mounted unless you are looking for them.
Here is one of the best ones:
The rest of them didn't work out as well, so I left them be before something bad happened. I kind of let this go, as you don't really see them while they are mounted unless you are looking for them.
Last edited by wingrider on Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
So, once they were on and mounted,I pulled down the still very red tank panels,and wanted to see if everything would fit, or if I was going to be modifying the panels.
I am happy to report that they fit!
There isn't a bunch of room, but it is enough....
Thank goodness the 1200 block is just a little bit wider!
I am happy to report that they fit!
There isn't a bunch of room, but it is enough....
Thank goodness the 1200 block is just a little bit wider!
Last edited by wingrider on Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Today I also felt it was time to make the bump stops on the lower triple tree so the handlebars don't dig into the side panels. Measure a couple times and drill a couple holes and we are good to go!
Although they can't been seen all that well, as long as the forks were off, I slipped the headlight brackets on each fork, and made the brake lines.
Hooked it up, and bled the system as best I can. Going to give it a bit of time, but perhaps this Master cylinder isn't the correct size for the Busa brakes. Seems I can build pressure, but the lever doesn't get as firm as I would like.
Right now I have the lever clamped to the grip, so hopefully if there is any air left, it will migrate up.
Although they can't been seen all that well, as long as the forks were off, I slipped the headlight brackets on each fork, and made the brake lines.
Hooked it up, and bled the system as best I can. Going to give it a bit of time, but perhaps this Master cylinder isn't the correct size for the Busa brakes. Seems I can build pressure, but the lever doesn't get as firm as I would like.
Right now I have the lever clamped to the grip, so hopefully if there is any air left, it will migrate up.
Last edited by wingrider on Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Looking good. Still a ways out?
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
I'd say I am still quite a ways out...debating splitting the engine to beef it up a bit...
Still need to wire it for everything, get the fuel system put together, and paint.
We did just put an offer on some land, and are closing in July on it, so I will be building a shop to move all of my projects out to...so some things will take longer now.
Still need to wire it for everything, get the fuel system put together, and paint.
We did just put an offer on some land, and are closing in July on it, so I will be building a shop to move all of my projects out to...so some things will take longer now.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
How?wingrider wrote:snip.......debating splitting the engine to beef it up a bit...
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1985 Honda Elite
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1976 KZ900 Dragbike
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and a rotation of various purchases
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Plan to stick the bearings, and "might" have a line on a guy that does custom rods...won't really know for sure till I am able to actually talk with him.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer/ Bobber with a kick
Project is looking really good. Glad to see it moving along.
Bikes at present:
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
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