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Wrong thread :oops:
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Considering the content of this thread I think we ought to nominate FirstYearDeek to get a tag line something akin to "PowderCoating Guru". He obviously knows a LOT more than most on the subject and is willing to share it.

And let's face it - a handle of "FirstYearDeek" makes one think he's 15 and has a bad case of acne.
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great presentation. I hope you don't cook food in that oven. :lol:
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hiddenone wrote:great presentation. I hope you don't cook food in that oven. :lol:
:lol: nope. It even stinks when I pre-heat now. I installed an exhaust fan so no worries.

I need to take some shots of the setup in the basement... I got the whole thing moved and it's much easier than it was in the paint booth.

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sgwilly wrote:...we ought to nominate FirstYearDeek to get a tag line something akin to "PowderCoating Guru". He obviously knows a LOT more than most on the subject and is willing to share it.
I'm honored! And always willing to share
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sgwilly wrote:And let's face it - a handle of "FirstYearDeek" makes one think he's 15 and has a bad case of acne.
Gee, thanks!

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Ok sounds great ! just one question I read that you had to heat the part to 600 degrees to get the proper melt.. sounds high to me cause I was thinking 250 before I read that.. What is the proper Temp of the Oven..??
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i believe it depends on the type of material you're coating and the powder you're using. The parts we've done at my friends house, we heated to 400 and had no issues with the outcome
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Victour wrote:Ok sounds great ! just one question I read that you had to heat the part to 600 degrees to get the proper melt.. sounds high to me cause I was thinking 250 before I read that.. What is the proper Temp of the Oven..??
A handful of the ceramic coatings need to get that high, but none of the powders I've encountered need anywhere near that!

400 is the most common cure temp for my powders... there are a few at 360 and a few at 425 but those are rare.

Most of the powders can be cured at much lower temperatures for longer times to acheive the same result. (It's a chemical reaction is initiated and catalyzed by the heat... less catalyst will slow the reaction, but not stop it all together)

Quite a few guys have been coating the composite intakes for Corvettes and they can sag if not supported properly. They're doing 300 degrees for about twice as long. One guy even found that the powder he preferred cured harder with a longer, lower-temp cure.

On the oven front, I ordered metal yesterday and I should have some pics to post... it's big enough for a frame!

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Glad to hear about the temps.. I will do some of this... Harbor freight has a Complete kit. Is it ok to use.?. also assorted colors of Powder..
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Victour wrote:Glad to hear about the temps.. I will do some of this... Harbor freight has a Complete kit. Is it ok to use.?. also assorted colors of Powder..
The Harbor Freight gun isn't great quality; their powders are horrible. It will do single coats on most substrates fairly well but forget about candy's or clears.

If you do pick up one of their guns, do yourself a favor and buy some decent powder from a reputable supplier.

If you're looking for a low-cost gun, the Eastwood Hobby gun is what I use. It's not much more than the HF gun and I've done up to 4 coats with very little headache.

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Thanks Deek I will check Eastwood outfit out thanks..
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Looks great. Now, does anybody make a powder that turns into chrome???

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I've used a reflective chrome powder on many parts over the past few years. There are quite a few powders out there called "chrome," but they all look pretty much like a nicely polished aluminum when they're cured. The better powders are two stage, requiring chrome as the base and a high gloss clear for the final coat. At the end of the day, there's still nothing as nice as real chrome plating, but as you can see from the attached pictures, the results are very nice and much more economical.
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