Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #136 by Explorer » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:52 pm

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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #137 by LowNSlow » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:06 pm

ericheath wrote:So you found new needles? I’m trying to envision how they could fall out of the slides... worn out? Wrong ones?


2 piece needle. Main needle separated from the “keeper” disc. Apparently, they are pressed together, but didn’t stay that way.
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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #138 by LowNSlow » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:08 pm

Three different problems:
1) crap in the tank initially shut me down.
2) ignition timing was retarded (seems like I remember the coil pickup plate screwsbeing a smidge loose)
3) somewhere along these struggles, 2 main jet needles “dropped”

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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #139 by ericheath » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:12 pm

I can’t make it out, but the pic looks as though these were OEM needles.
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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #140 by Track T 2411 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:31 pm

At least one other member had the same issue with the needles separating just like that. Definitely an odd occurrence!
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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #141 by robin1731 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:15 am

Track T 2411 wrote:At least one other member had the same issue with the needles separating just like that. Definitely an odd occurrence!


Yeah, I've been in lots of these carbs and have not seen that. Seen some other odd things though. lolol

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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #142 by Sidecar Bob » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:36 pm

I wonder if they could be soldered back together?
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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #143 by robin1731 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:24 pm

Sidecar Bob wrote:I wonder if they could be soldered back together?



Might work. You would have to make sure there was no solder under the "hat". That would make the needle set up a bit higher and would affect the jetting. Also would have to really make sure the "hat" was down all the way where it is in stock form. For the same reason.

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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block

Post #144 by LowNSlow » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:47 pm

robin1731 wrote:
Sidecar Bob wrote:I wonder if they could be soldered back together?



Might work. You would have to make sure there was no solder under the "hat". That would make the needle set up a bit higher and would affect the jetting. Also would have to really make sure the "hat" was down all the way where it is in stock form. For the same reason.

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I soldered them back together and then carefully filed away in that interference area you mention. Working great so far.


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