Timing Belts
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- 78AZWing
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Re: Timing Belts
Yeah, don't forget that 30 bike years is like what? 120 people years? I am about half that, and I bet I'ld blow a gasket if I got revved to the redline.
For that run-down feeling -
Try Jaywalking!
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Try Jaywalking!
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- gapl1953
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Re: Timing Belts
Roady wrote:Moved to Tech Discussions.
Were you just free-revving it? No load, or was that on the go?
I don't think I've ever revved an engine to redline when I wasn't going somewhere.
No, I was in first gear, driving out of a tight turn then slowing for the next.
Current Stable; 1979 GL1000, 1973 CB500K1, 1973 CB750K3, 1985 CB700SC, 1984 BMW R80RT,
1996 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt
My father use to say, "Anyone can fix it with the right tools"!
I say, "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer"!
1996 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt
My father use to say, "Anyone can fix it with the right tools"!
I say, "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer"!
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Re: Timing Belts
Cookie wrote:The way it happened on the unwind I'd wonder if the difficult belt was a bit loose.
I think that might have been the case. They were adjusted correctly when I installed them in late April. Do you need to recheck the adjustment after they have some miles on them. I don't remember ever hearing to do that?
Current Stable; 1979 GL1000, 1973 CB500K1, 1973 CB750K3, 1985 CB700SC, 1984 BMW R80RT,
1996 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt
My father use to say, "Anyone can fix it with the right tools"!
I say, "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer"!
1996 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt
My father use to say, "Anyone can fix it with the right tools"!
I say, "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer"!
- gapl1953
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Re: Timing Belts
morganfrmn wrote:I just bought a nice set of used belts off ebay... but I never go to the red line....
I think the bike was telling you something....
You must sense the spirit of the bike, you must be one with your bike....I don't think your
bike liked the red line thing and it was communicating it to you.
I agree about the spirit of the bike thing. At the time we (the bike and me) were doing a good job of making a believer of a fellow biker who was saying that the GL1000's were "big heavy slugs which couldn't get out of their own way". He was riding one of the new Triumph Bonneville's. Was having my way with him until the belt incident. He was so impressed he didn't say anything bad about the Wing even after it broke. In fact, he went as far to say, that when I get it fixed give him a call and he might buy it. (It is for sale)
Current Stable; 1979 GL1000, 1973 CB500K1, 1973 CB750K3, 1985 CB700SC, 1984 BMW R80RT,
1996 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt
My father use to say, "Anyone can fix it with the right tools"!
I say, "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer"!
1996 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt
My father use to say, "Anyone can fix it with the right tools"!
I say, "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer"!
- Cookie
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Re: Timing Belts
I think I heard from Randak? maybe, at least somewhere, to run it for a couple miles and then check the adjustment. I suspect this is more due to the fact that it is hard to get that adjuster correct than the belt stretches.
Personally I like to start it up and run it to settle the belt and then do the final adjustment. I also prefer to put it on, check my marks, then go do something else and recheck marks before even doing the first turn over tests. When I come back fresh I'm more likely to spot a tooth off.
Personally I like to start it up and run it to settle the belt and then do the final adjustment. I also prefer to put it on, check my marks, then go do something else and recheck marks before even doing the first turn over tests. When I come back fresh I'm more likely to spot a tooth off.
Enjoy life,
Cookie
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Owner of 4.4 76s and one lone 75 Wings (does a spare engine make .2?)
Cookie
A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad.
Owner of 4.4 76s and one lone 75 Wings (does a spare engine make .2?)
- gapl1953
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Re: Timing Belts
Thanks! I'll do it that way when I put it back together.Cookie wrote:I think I heard from Randak? maybe, at least somewhere, to run it for a couple miles and then check the adjustment. I suspect this is more due to the fact that it is hard to get that adjuster correct than the belt stretches.
Personally I like to start it up and run it to settle the belt and then do the final adjustment. I also prefer to put it on, check my marks, then go do something else and recheck marks before even doing the first turn over tests. When I come back fresh I'm more likely to spot a tooth off.
Current Stable; 1979 GL1000, 1973 CB500K1, 1973 CB750K3, 1985 CB700SC, 1984 BMW R80RT,
1996 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt
My father use to say, "Anyone can fix it with the right tools"!
I say, "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer"!
1996 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt
My father use to say, "Anyone can fix it with the right tools"!
I say, "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer"!
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Re: Timing Belts
What is the Gates number for the belts? I need to get some soon.
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- Hal
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Re: Timing Belts
I got mine from Honda. They have changed the ref number, there's a new one which replaces the original #, useful for telling the age.
"The Moving Finger writes, and having writ, moves on,
nor all your Piety nor Wit
can lure it back to cancel half a line...
so....probably best use Tipp-Ex in future?"
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nor all your Piety nor Wit
can lure it back to cancel half a line...
so....probably best use Tipp-Ex in future?"
1977 GL1000 in bits
1978 SR 500 Yam
1995 Harley Sportster/Buell street-tracker
1992 Grinnall Scorpion SC3 prototype
2002 Caterham SV 220 Evo (4 wheeled motorcycle)
Hal's Nalbum
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Re: Timing Belts
Thanks. I am making a note of that.aquawing wrote:T274
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Re: Timing Belts
I've got 2 new NAPA belts on the shelf, ready for install (after I get the heads back on).
Last month I ordered the Gates belts (T274) at our local NAPA dealer and when I picked them up, they gave me the NAPA #250274 belts. I questioned the 'mix-up' and they insisted these ARE Gates as they are made by Gates. Right on the Napa box is printed a Gates logo with a "Made by, backed by Gates Corp". I took 'em home without a second thought...until I see this.
For about 3 bucks, I did order new OEM adjuster springs just for grins...might be a good move.
Last month I ordered the Gates belts (T274) at our local NAPA dealer and when I picked them up, they gave me the NAPA #250274 belts. I questioned the 'mix-up' and they insisted these ARE Gates as they are made by Gates. Right on the Napa box is printed a Gates logo with a "Made by, backed by Gates Corp". I took 'em home without a second thought...until I see this.
For about 3 bucks, I did order new OEM adjuster springs just for grins...might be a good move.
'75 GL1000K0
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'70 CB450K3
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....*Prone on tank, downhill, wind at your back = 56 mph!"
'72 Honda 750K2 -> 836cc
'70 CB450K3
'65 CB160
'63 C110* ("Honda 50")
....*Prone on tank, downhill, wind at your back = 56 mph!"
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