Electric fuel pump
Moderators: CYBORG, Oldewing, robin1731, Forum Moderators
- wingrider
- SUPER BIKER!!!!
- Posts: 3738
- Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 12:15 pm
- Location: Maple Lake, MN USA
Electric fuel pump
Hey all,
I am still building up my 77 project...frame should almost be done at the powder coater, but that is a different story.
I am running a dual weber setup, and it will have a touch of nitrous with it. I recently went to purchase a fuel pump from Randakk, only to find that they have been discontinued due to some factors that Randakk told me about.
This now leaves me looking for a substitute pump over the OEM, as I am not certain the stock one will have enough flow when the go fast button is hit....not to mention the amount of cranking to fill the carbs first run.
Does anyone have any suggestions to a good pump that will work well, or am I wrong, and the stock one will work fine?
Thanks for any help!
I am still building up my 77 project...frame should almost be done at the powder coater, but that is a different story.
I am running a dual weber setup, and it will have a touch of nitrous with it. I recently went to purchase a fuel pump from Randakk, only to find that they have been discontinued due to some factors that Randakk told me about.
This now leaves me looking for a substitute pump over the OEM, as I am not certain the stock one will have enough flow when the go fast button is hit....not to mention the amount of cranking to fill the carbs first run.
Does anyone have any suggestions to a good pump that will work well, or am I wrong, and the stock one will work fine?
Thanks for any help!
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
- MSGT-R
- Lady Winger
- Posts: 1021
- Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:53 pm
- Location: CO
Re: Electric fuel pump
I'm still holding a Randakk kit.
I sent you a PM.
I sent you a PM.
81 Interstate: gone but never forgotten.
13 F6B
NGW Cartel
13 F6B
NGW Cartel
- pierce
- Run Executive
- Posts: 1288
- Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:07 pm
- My Album: pierce
- Location: Madison
Re: Electric fuel pump
Just buy the pump yourself.
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/produ ... RecID=8440
It is a facet pump, pn 40105.
You will have to either fabricate a bracket for it, or place it somewhere else. That was what you were really paying for with his kit. The fabricated mounts, instructions etc.
Do it yourself.
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/produ ... RecID=8440
It is a facet pump, pn 40105.
You will have to either fabricate a bracket for it, or place it somewhere else. That was what you were really paying for with his kit. The fabricated mounts, instructions etc.
Do it yourself.
1976 GL1000
1978 Gl1000
1978 Gl1000
- gregforesi
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 4966
- Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:42 pm
- My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/Greg+Foresi/
- Location: Venice, FL
Re: Electric fuel pump
Randall used a Facet cube pump (40171). I didn't use his mount and opted to mount it inboard on the cross-brace. A homemade cover and gasket covers the hole where the stock pump mounted.
The Webers need 3psi and the one Pierce mentions is 4.5psi so I would go with the 40171.
If you are going to run wet nitrous will you require a high pressure pump as well?
The Webers need 3psi and the one Pierce mentions is 4.5psi so I would go with the 40171.
If you are going to run wet nitrous will you require a high pressure pump as well?
2006 GL1800 (Brutus Maximus)
1978 GL1000 (White Trash - 2012 BOTY
(If you want to discuss the Trashmobile, Webers, Rearsets, Clubmans, or other stuff then send me a PM.)
"Getting old ain't for sissies" - Phyllis Diller
"So how much you gonna spend to win that $5 trophy?" - Cyborg
1978 GL1000 (White Trash - 2012 BOTY
(If you want to discuss the Trashmobile, Webers, Rearsets, Clubmans, or other stuff then send me a PM.)
"Getting old ain't for sissies" - Phyllis Diller
"So how much you gonna spend to win that $5 trophy?" - Cyborg
- wingrider
- SUPER BIKER!!!!
- Posts: 3738
- Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 12:15 pm
- Location: Maple Lake, MN USA
Re: Electric fuel pump
Thanks for the replies to far!
The system has not been chosen yet, but it will be a wet system. Unclear yet if I will need a high pressure pump.
The system has not been chosen yet, but it will be a wet system. Unclear yet if I will need a high pressure pump.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
- pierce
- Run Executive
- Posts: 1288
- Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:07 pm
- My Album: pierce
- Location: Madison
Re: Electric fuel pump
Sorry about that, must have posted the wrong model number.
Go with what Foresi posted.
Go with what Foresi posted.
1976 GL1000
1978 Gl1000
1978 Gl1000
- ericheath
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 9581
- Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:20 am
- Location: Winnipeg, Manituba
Re: Electric fuel pump
Others have run pumps from mid 80's Honda carbureted, gl1200, most of the vf bikes.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
- Millwright
- Billet Alum. Member
- Posts: 213
- Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:09 pm
- Location: Paris,Ontario,Canada
Re: Electric fuel pump
Wingrider I am in the same boat myself, install new webers over the winter and a little to late for the recomended model from Randall. I am still about three weeks away from running mine, but for what it is worth I decided to get the one from cbperformance model 3193 fuel pump 3 1/2 lbs. I looked at several, and the reason that I picked this one, they recomended it off course but fom what I could tell this style is quieter. Like I said I still have about 3 weeks before startup so I am wondering if my decision will cause me grief.
Millwright
Millwright
1983 GL1100 Standard
My build thread.
My build thread.
- robin1731
- Membership Admin
- Posts: 21729
- Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 8:31 am
- Location: Decatur, Indiana
Re: Electric fuel pump
wingrider wrote:Thanks for the replies to far!
The system has not been chosen yet, but it will be a wet system. Unclear yet if I will need a high pressure pump.
You will have to run a wet system. Dry is for fuel injection. As long as you buy a complete kit the hight pressure fuel pump will come with it. You should "T" in to the fuel line right off of the fuel petcock. ( I thought we talked about all of this already?)
1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
- wingrider
- SUPER BIKER!!!!
- Posts: 3738
- Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 12:15 pm
- Location: Maple Lake, MN USA
Re: Electric fuel pump
Thanks again everyone for the responses. I believe I have found a pump.
Robin, we talked a lot about the general system, (I recently poured over every message to recall everything) but never really touched on the pump....the closest we got was when you said if I got the complete kit, everything would be in it that I would need.
Robin, we talked a lot about the general system, (I recently poured over every message to recall everything) but never really touched on the pump....the closest we got was when you said if I got the complete kit, everything would be in it that I would need.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
- Bankerdanny
- Titanium Member
- Posts: 338
- Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:44 pm
- Location: Evanston, IL
Re: Electric fuel pump
Fair warning, the Facet pumps are really loud. I have one on my MGB-GT, probably the same one actually, since my twin SU's only need about 2.5lbs of pressure. I can hear it even over the substantial road noise.
'76 CB750F, parts for about 2 CB550's, '72 MGB-GT
Past bikes: '75 CB550F, 77 GL1000, '77 CB550K, '89 Yamaha FJ1200, '02 Royal Enfield Bullet 500ES, '68 Suzuki K11, '69 Yamaha YR2, '70 Honda SL175, '69 BMW R69S.
Endeavor to Persevere
Past bikes: '75 CB550F, 77 GL1000, '77 CB550K, '89 Yamaha FJ1200, '02 Royal Enfield Bullet 500ES, '68 Suzuki K11, '69 Yamaha YR2, '70 Honda SL175, '69 BMW R69S.
Endeavor to Persevere
- timma11
- Silver Member
- Posts: 616
- Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:34 pm
Re: Electric fuel pump
and those factors would be? anything current users of this pump should know about?wingrider wrote:<<snip>> I recently went to purchase a fuel pump from Randakk, only to find that they have been discontinued due to some factors that Randakk told me about. <<snip>>
tim
"studies have found that people with schizophrenia are about twice as likely to smoke pot as those who are unaffected"
- robin1731
- Membership Admin
- Posts: 21729
- Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 8:31 am
- Location: Decatur, Indiana
Re: Electric fuel pump
Probably better to ask Randakk himself.timma11 wrote:and those factors would be? anything current users of this pump should know about?wingrider wrote:<<snip>> I recently went to purchase a fuel pump from Randakk, only to find that they have been discontinued due to some factors that Randakk told me about. <<snip>>
tim
1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
- wingrider
- SUPER BIKER!!!!
- Posts: 3738
- Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 12:15 pm
- Location: Maple Lake, MN USA
Re: Electric fuel pump
I agree...I was told only general reasons why, not particular reasons.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
- the chef
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 1911
- Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:06 pm
- Location: Odenville,Alabama. The land of dixie! (!Hell yeah!!)
Re: Electric fuel pump
On the highway to Hell!
Ride on, Ride on.. !
PREVIOUS OLD LOVES=
19?? Zundapp with 6 hp Briggs and Stratton engine Chrome tank
1971 Kawasaki H1 500 blue /white stripe
1975 Honda 750 Yellow
1980 Honda Gl 1100 Interstate Black
1982 Honda Gl 1100 Standard Black
1983 Honda Gl 1100 Aspencade Black
1981 Honda Interstate Black
1981 Honda Gl 500 Silverwing . Candy muse red
1986 Honda VT 500C red
PRESENT RIDE >1976 Honda Gl 1000 Originally red, now flat black, olive drab, primer gray.
Ride on, Ride on.. !
PREVIOUS OLD LOVES=
19?? Zundapp with 6 hp Briggs and Stratton engine Chrome tank
1971 Kawasaki H1 500 blue /white stripe
1975 Honda 750 Yellow
1980 Honda Gl 1100 Interstate Black
1982 Honda Gl 1100 Standard Black
1983 Honda Gl 1100 Aspencade Black
1981 Honda Interstate Black
1981 Honda Gl 500 Silverwing . Candy muse red
1986 Honda VT 500C red
PRESENT RIDE >1976 Honda Gl 1000 Originally red, now flat black, olive drab, primer gray.
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
- 10 Replies
- 873 Views
-
Last post by OCR
-
- 3 Replies
- 493 Views
-
Last post by Gowing
-
- 5 Replies
- 559 Views
-
Last post by Rat
-
- 8 Replies
- 662 Views
-
Last post by boogie red
-
- 31 Replies
- 1735 Views
-
Last post by CYBORG