Dyna ignition
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- Mark King
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Dyna ignition
I know Dyna ignition comes up frequently but for winter work this year I am going to install electronic ignition on the 76. I can hardly see the points anymore with my eyesight.
I see on various sites two kinds of kits - one that appears to have coils and one that doesn't.
And of course there is a price difference between the two.
What should be used? I only want to do this job once and don't want any hassles going forward - in other words I don't mind spending money for the kit with coils if that is the best way to go.
Thanks for any and all advice.
I see on various sites two kinds of kits - one that appears to have coils and one that doesn't.
And of course there is a price difference between the two.
What should be used? I only want to do this job once and don't want any hassles going forward - in other words I don't mind spending money for the kit with coils if that is the best way to go.
Thanks for any and all advice.
M King
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1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
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1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
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Re: Dyna ignition
You can install the DynaS ignition with stock coils. That kit comes with a replacement ballast resistor that you install in place of the stock resistor. The Dyna ignition eliminates having to maintain the points.
The second part is the coils. On a 1000, they are a performance upgrade since their output voltage is much higher than the stock coils, and you can go with a wider spark plug gap. In a place where explosions take place very rapidly, that is a decent boost. When running a Dyna ignition and Dyna coils, the ballast resistor is eliminated that the connectors just get jumpered together.
Z1 Enterprises carries the DynaS, Dyna coils, and Dyna wires as separate stock items so you can pick and choose. New NGK spark plug booties would be a good idea as well. Dyna suggests resistor plug boots and the NGK ones do have resistors. Z1 used to have the best pricing as well. I'm not sure about the current pricing situation.
The 1100 coils have a higher output than the 1000 coils so the difference probably isn't as noticeable.
The second part is the coils. On a 1000, they are a performance upgrade since their output voltage is much higher than the stock coils, and you can go with a wider spark plug gap. In a place where explosions take place very rapidly, that is a decent boost. When running a Dyna ignition and Dyna coils, the ballast resistor is eliminated that the connectors just get jumpered together.
Z1 Enterprises carries the DynaS, Dyna coils, and Dyna wires as separate stock items so you can pick and choose. New NGK spark plug booties would be a good idea as well. Dyna suggests resistor plug boots and the NGK ones do have resistors. Z1 used to have the best pricing as well. I'm not sure about the current pricing situation.
The 1100 coils have a higher output than the 1000 coils so the difference probably isn't as noticeable.
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Re: Dyna ignition
Still worth changing over though to get rid of 30 year old parts.gregforesi wrote:snip.............
The 1100 coils have a higher output than the 1000 coils so the difference probably isn't as noticeable.
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Re: Dyna ignition
+1robin1731 wrote: Still worth changing over though to get rid of 30 year old parts.
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Re: Dyna ignition
Thanks for the precise and concise info.
That's exactly what I was looking for.
That's exactly what I was looking for.
M King
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
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Re: Dyna ignition
What Greg said. 100%. And, I want emphasize his comment to change the resistor plug caps with NGK's or genuine Honda. Having that brand new ignition and hotter spark slowed down by old caps is, well, 'pointless'.
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Re: Dyna ignition
When I was working on my build, I thought I'd pull the resistors out of my old plug caps just to take a look. Good thing. #4 had turned into sand and #1 was well on its way.
There had been some talk here about being able to eliminate the resistor plug boots. Dyna tech support told me to go with resistors.
There had been some talk here about being able to eliminate the resistor plug boots. Dyna tech support told me to go with resistors.
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Re: Dyna ignition
I run Taylor plug wires on my KZ's with Dyna ignition. The GL has automotive wires. Both without resistor caps.
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Re: Dyna ignition
i also run the dyna without resistor caps, and no problems
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Re: Dyna ignition
CYBORG wrote:i also run the dyna without resistor caps, and no problems
Yeah, I don't see why you would spend the money to get a good hot spark and then turn that spark down with a resistor.
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Re: Dyna ignition
that was my thinking as well. and the molded plug ends are much more water proof
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Re: Dyna ignition
You can get away with that cuz you guys don't have stereos on your bikes.
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Re: Dyna ignition
The sound of the engine is all we need.gregforesi wrote:You can get away with that cuz you guys don't have stereos on your bikes.
You could use resistor plugs.
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1976 KZ900 Dragbike
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and a rotation of various purchases
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1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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