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C5 ignition

Post #1 by millerdog » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:34 pm

I’ve recentl purchased a C5 ignition with the thin coils they offer. They state on the website that they will mount on an 1100, but are pretty vague on the 1000. Anybody have any problems with mounting the coils on a 1000? They claim plug and play, but I know from experience, this is not always the case. I’m just wondering if I’m gonna need to do some fabrication, or not! LOL. Super excited about this. I’ve had about every ignition you can think of on this bike. Not completely happy with any of them. Looking forward to seeing the difference. Thanks in advance!!
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Post #2 by CYBORG » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:56 pm

not sure what coils you are talking about, but I mounted the coils that came with mine, ignoring the directions, and the traditional mounting place, to find another spot that they would mount and the wires still reach. Works fine. I don't see why theynhave to be mounted any one particular place
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Post #3 by BlueThunder » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:12 pm

millerdog wrote:I’ve recentl purchased a C5 ignition with the thin coils they offer. They state on the website that they will mount on an 1100, but are pretty vague on the 1000. Anybody have any problems with mounting the coils on a 1000? They claim plug and play, but I know from experience, this is not always the case. I’m just wondering if I’m gonna need to do some fabrication, or not! LOL. Super excited about this. I’ve had about every ignition you can think of on this bike. Not completely happy with any of them. Looking forward to seeing the difference. Thanks in advance!!

The included coils do fit on the GL1000. Its a little tight and I had to remove the air filter housing. No fabrication was needed. However, I found that it is MANDATORY to use a relay to power the coils. Wiring through the RUN switch did not provide enough current and the C5 sputtered above 3500 RPM. The relay solved the problem.
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Re: C5 ignition

Post #4 by millerdog » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:47 pm

Thanks for the tips! The relay has me worried! :(
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Post #5 by low-side » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:49 pm

+1 on the relay. It solves a lot of problems. I use the run switch to switch the relay.

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Post #6 by Explorer » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:33 pm

I'm not sure what you mean by the "thin coils" either, but I mounted mine on an `82 1100 and they weren't exactly what you'd call plug and play. The relay must be a GL1000 thing, because I didn't need to. Or maybe I should, perhaps I'm missing something! What do I know? I'm certainly no expert.

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Post #7 by CYBORG » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:30 pm

I don't know if I used a relay or not. Probably did. I got relays controlling everything else. But it works so well, I haven't had to look at it in a couple of years :lol: :lol:
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Post #8 by millerdog » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:42 pm

I sent them an email, asking about the power requirements, and using a relay. Hopefully I’ll hear back soon!
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Post #9 by ericheath » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:29 pm

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Re: C5 ignition

Post #10 by millerdog » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:11 am

Mine hasn’t actually arrived yet, but yes, I believe that’s the one. With the mc2 coils.
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Re: C5 ignition

Post #11 by AussieGold » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:04 am

millerdog wrote:Mine hasn’t actually arrived yet, but yes, I believe that’s the one. With the mc2 coils.


this is a pic of one of mine .GL1000. in place of stock. not sure if it is the same coil pack you have purchased, but fitting is simple. it will be the best single upgrade you could do, in my opinion. i am sure Paul from c5 is available for any issues you may have.
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the relay is nothing to be afraid of, very simple to fit.
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Re: C5 ignition

Post #12 by BlueThunder » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:50 am

millerdog wrote:I sent them an email, asking about the power requirements, and using a relay. Hopefully I’ll hear back soon!

They told me that one wasn't needed. Boy, were they wrong. Take the time to put one in, you will be happy you did down the road.
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Re: C5 ignition

Post #13 by robin1731 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:05 pm

BlueThunder wrote:
millerdog wrote:I sent them an email, asking about the power requirements, and using a relay. Hopefully I’ll hear back soon!

They told me that one wasn't needed. Boy, were they wrong. Take the time to put one in, you will be happy you did down the road.



They do test their ignitions before putting them out for sale. If the manufacturer tells me it doesn't need a relay I'm going with that. You are the first I've heard of that has had this issue. Where did you get the power for yours from? Originally? We are talking about 40 plus year old wiring afterall.

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Re: C5 ignition

Post #14 by CYBORG » Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:33 pm

The relay assures full battery voltage to the unit. So does GOOD stock wiring
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Re: C5 ignition

Post #15 by robin1731 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:52 pm

Obviously I know what the relay does and is always good practice. But if their testing shows it isn't necessary then I would believe that. Like my earlier post mentioned we are working with 40m year old wiring if it hasn't been updated. ;) anim-cheers1
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