Pod filters?
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Pod filters?
I'm just wondering if anyone on here has done 4 pods on a gl1000?
I can't leave anything alone.
I need to take my carbs off to clean them anyway. So I was just wondering what it would take to put pods on my bike....
I can't leave anything alone.
I need to take my carbs off to clean them anyway. So I was just wondering what it would take to put pods on my bike....
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Re: Pod filters?
If you go that route, you may find re-jetting a tough job. From what I have read changing the air filter flow rate makes very big changes in the way the bike runs.
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Re: Pod filters?
No.
Where would you put them? Where?
Leave the air filtration system alone.
Where would you put them? Where?
Leave the air filtration system alone.
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
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Re: Pod filters?
I figured it would take a larger jet set
Ive also thought about re-jetting the carbs and going to a high flow filter. But what is the best option for high flow filters for a gl.
Ive also thought about re-jetting the carbs and going to a high flow filter. But what is the best option for high flow filters for a gl.
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Re: Pod filters?
The plenum (the central 'box' the carbs mount to) also distributes the fuel, so one would need to find another means of connecting to each carb. The throttle linkage also mounts to the plenum, so that would have to be re-worked, as well. There have been a few examples of modified/replaced air boxes allowing an automotive type filter. Just a heads up; while these bikes don't much care what is done to the exhaust, modifications to the air box/filter can require some significant re-jetting.
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Re: Pod filters?
4 pods really makes no sense on the gl1000's original carb setup but looks cool with the 'dual webber' setup used by some.
My '75 GL1000 came with a K&N filter in the original airbox, jets had original #'s on em when I rebuilt the carbs.. seems to run fine but I may try putting an OEM-style filter on in the spring to see if it changes anything.
My '75 GL1000 came with a K&N filter in the original airbox, jets had original #'s on em when I rebuilt the carbs.. seems to run fine but I may try putting an OEM-style filter on in the spring to see if it changes anything.
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Re: Pod filters?
The standard GL carburetors would be very difficult to make work with pods. Besides the fuel delivery problem, there is the structual component of the airbox, the throttle and choke linkages and then the fact that a multi cylinder - multicarb setup, CV carbs require a balanced supply of air. You might be able to make a set of Mikunis work.
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Re: Pod filters?
Do you have a picture of this or have you ever actually seen it done?Corey_wicks wrote:I'm just wondering if anyone on here has done 4 pods on a gl1000?
I can't leave anything alone.
I need to take my carbs off to clean them anyway. So I was just wondering what it would take to put pods on my bike....
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Re: Pod filters?
Pretty sure the words filter PODs and OEM Gl1000 carbs do not go in the same sentence without a negative. Alternate carborators are part of the Pod filter execution.
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Re: Pod filters?
I mean, anything is possible. I've heard of someone wanting to flip the intakes around and angle the carbs out (instead of inwards) and run pods that way. But, as was stated, you'll need to fabricate new throttle linkages and fuel delivery, possibly idle air delivery as well.
It's a bit like making a functioning airplane out of mashed potatoes: It's possible, but expect to have to solve some things along the way.
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Re: Pod filters?
As with most Hondas, the carbs are part of a complete induction and fueling system that seldom can be improved or even matched by changing components. The success of some carb replacements is because the entire system is replaced. Pods just do not work on CV carbs. If you want Pods, change the carbs.
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Re: Pod filters?
pidjones wrote:snip............ Pods just do not work on CV carbs. If you want Pods, change the carbs.
That is a blanket statement that is not true. I have several bikes out there with CV carbs and pods. They work very well. I personally have a 1982 KZ1100 with CV carbs and pods. It runs great. It can be done. Easily? Depends on you more than the carbs. Some bikes you can buy the kit to make them work really easy. Others, like my KZ1100 I played with jetting and needle height. (It does take more than just jetting) Had the carbs off once after initial settings. That was all kit took for the bike to run like it should.
Now, putting pods on an early GL really isn't possible. Because of the afore mentioned fact that the air chamber is part of the carb rack. Along with the linkage. If you go to the unique carb section and look there are threads of what different guys have tried. One used V-Max carbs. But it can be time consuming if you don't do that type of tuning a lot.
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Re: Pod filters?
I think this (from https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2952 ) is the early 'Wing equivalent of pod filters
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Re: Pod filters?
Am I the only one asking this question? I really don't care if I am!
What are PODS?
What are PODS?
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Re: Pod filters?
Could have a really good time with this!
Here's what you inquired about, though.
http://www.randakksblog.com/pod-air-fil ... ge-hondas/
Here's what you inquired about, though.
http://www.randakksblog.com/pod-air-fil ... ge-hondas/
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
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Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
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1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
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