Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
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- byrd900sp
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Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
I picked up a 1980 GL1100 with 96,000 miles on the odo for $400, and I've been going through it to see if it's worth putting on the road.
Before taking it apart, I got it to run enough to take it around the block, and it seemed smooth, but really slow on take off. I felt like I had to release the clutch really slowly to get up to speed.
The PO said it was his daily until six months ago, and "just needs a battery." There's no crash damage or rash anywhere, the bags are nice (I removed the fairing), and the bike looks great from across the street. The gas tank is rust free and carbs had minimal debris inside. None of the rubber stuff is rotted, but so far every chassis bearing I've checked is bad. Tires are date stamped 2017, and the brake pads were recently done. All the electrics work, and the gauges are not faded. Belts look new, but say Honda on them, originals perhaps?
The cylinder pressures are 125, 135, 125, 115 pounds. Oil and water look okay, but the radiator got hot enough to cook the paint off at some point, and the fan was really loose on its mounts.
My questions are: 1) Should I put money into head gaskets and belts, etc. Or is 100K miles just too much wear and tear for a bike that can be trusted on rides between Reno and Vegas (about nine hours through the Nevada desert)?
2) If I do commit to refreshing this bike, should I put in a new water pump while it's apart due to the cooked radiator?
Thank you!
Before taking it apart, I got it to run enough to take it around the block, and it seemed smooth, but really slow on take off. I felt like I had to release the clutch really slowly to get up to speed.
The PO said it was his daily until six months ago, and "just needs a battery." There's no crash damage or rash anywhere, the bags are nice (I removed the fairing), and the bike looks great from across the street. The gas tank is rust free and carbs had minimal debris inside. None of the rubber stuff is rotted, but so far every chassis bearing I've checked is bad. Tires are date stamped 2017, and the brake pads were recently done. All the electrics work, and the gauges are not faded. Belts look new, but say Honda on them, originals perhaps?
The cylinder pressures are 125, 135, 125, 115 pounds. Oil and water look okay, but the radiator got hot enough to cook the paint off at some point, and the fan was really loose on its mounts.
My questions are: 1) Should I put money into head gaskets and belts, etc. Or is 100K miles just too much wear and tear for a bike that can be trusted on rides between Reno and Vegas (about nine hours through the Nevada desert)?
2) If I do commit to refreshing this bike, should I put in a new water pump while it's apart due to the cooked radiator?
Thank you!
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Water pumps are likely to fail on old wings but you can check them pretty easy if you think the PO put one on. The slow accel seems likely from sitting. May clean up with miles or you may need to do a mild redu on the carbs. The bearings are not too bad to change and 96K miles is just break in for these. 300K is not uncommon. I would refresh it in a mild way (new belts and Water pump and maybe carb kit) and certainly make sure the brakes are great. Then do no more until you get a better fell for what needs a longer term update.
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Welcome to the forum! Sounds like it was on the road a bit in the last couple of years. If it was mine, I’d change the belts more as insurance than anything else. Belts can look new, and still be ready to let go. The mileage you see wouldn’t scare me in the least if it was taken care of.
I would change all the fluids in it, and while you have the coolant out, pop the bolts out of that lower radiator hose mount, and wiggle around the water pump. If no movement, and it isn’t weeping out of the weep hole, I would be tempted to run it. If it happened to have steel vanes on it, it means it has had one in the past.
While you have the coolant out, I would change out the thermostat and take a good look at the fan switch...if she got hot enough to boil the paint, then something isn’t/wasn’t quite right.
I would change all the fluids in it, and while you have the coolant out, pop the bolts out of that lower radiator hose mount, and wiggle around the water pump. If no movement, and it isn’t weeping out of the weep hole, I would be tempted to run it. If it happened to have steel vanes on it, it means it has had one in the past.
While you have the coolant out, I would change out the thermostat and take a good look at the fan switch...if she got hot enough to boil the paint, then something isn’t/wasn’t quite right.
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Looking at your other bikes you may just not be used to an early wing. They need a little more throttle/clutch to get moving than some people are used to. It could that the bike is fine but you need to learn it's quirks.
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
I would start by taking the radiator off, you don't need too but it makes changing and setting the belts so much easier. You can then check the mounting on the fan.
Flush the rad through and see that the water flows without any problems. As has been said, check the water pump, with your fingers on the vanes, there should be no movement either way. There are tests in the manual for the thermostat and both switches, one for the fan and one for the gauge, (all are available if needed), so be worth checking before reassembling and refilling. I use 50/50 distilled water and anti freeze as normal water can fur up the system.
Most importantly, change the belts so you know for sure it has been done.
Flush the rad through and see that the water flows without any problems. As has been said, check the water pump, with your fingers on the vanes, there should be no movement either way. There are tests in the manual for the thermostat and both switches, one for the fan and one for the gauge, (all are available if needed), so be worth checking before reassembling and refilling. I use 50/50 distilled water and anti freeze as normal water can fur up the system.
Most importantly, change the belts so you know for sure it has been done.
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Update on my GL1100: I changed the head gaskets and belts, and went through the brakes, cooling, and electrical systems, and replaced too many worn parts to mention. I think I found the original cause of the problem: The right head had never been torqued properly because the locating dowel was in crooked and deformed. The exhaust valve near that dowel had a crack in the shaft. After a few questions here and a lot of work, I got it running, carbs balanced, and a few shake down runs yesterday. I went a little farther today and ran it up to freeway speeds after addressing a few minor issues. Now everything works the way it should, and it runs and idles really smooth. I am super happy with this project! Thanks for the support! Now I am going to start on my 1975 GL1000 project.
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1975 Honda GL1000 Scrambler
2008 KTM 530 EXC-R
1998 Honda GL1500C
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1993 KTM 250SX
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Nice bike byrd, enjoy. Well worth the work put in.
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1983 GL1100 Aspencade named "Freki" currently undergoing change to a standard. Sold
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
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"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Great photo too.
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Nice bike.byrd900sp wrote:Update on my GL1100: I changed the head gaskets and belts, and went through the brakes, cooling, and electrical systems, and replaced too many worn parts to mention. I think I found the original cause of the problem: The right head had never been torqued properly because the locating dowel was in crooked and deformed. The exhaust valve near that dowel had a crack in the shaft. After a few questions here and a lot of work, I got it running, carbs balanced, and a few shake down runs yesterday. I went a little farther today and ran it up to freeway speeds after addressing a few minor issues. Now everything works the way it should, and it runs and idles really smooth. I am super happy with this project! Thanks for the support! Now I am going to start on my 1975 GL1000 project.
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Great looking bike! So glad you put the effort into it
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
I like those crash bars!
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Love those hondaline bags. They do everything well in my book. Nice looking bike
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You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
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Re: Getting a GL1100 on the road. Questions...
Wow! Thanks for the compliments!
Now I have the blinkers I got from Dime City wired up, and I found an old set of Jardine headers in the boneyard, but I actually like the original pipes better, so I'll probably swap them back. But as you can see in the pic, I'm not going to get to try them out today. It was 68f and sunny just two days ago!
Now I have the blinkers I got from Dime City wired up, and I found an old set of Jardine headers in the boneyard, but I actually like the original pipes better, so I'll probably swap them back. But as you can see in the pic, I'm not going to get to try them out today. It was 68f and sunny just two days ago!
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2008 KTM 530 EXC-R
1998 Honda GL1500C
1997 Ducati 900SS SP
1996 Honda XR650L
1993 KTM 250SX
1984 Honda XR500R
1980 Honda GL1100 Standard
1975 Honda GL1000 Scrambler
2008 KTM 530 EXC-R
1998 Honda GL1500C
1997 Ducati 900SS SP
1996 Honda XR650L
1993 KTM 250SX
1984 Honda XR500R
1980 Honda GL1100 Standard
1975 Honda GL1000 Scrambler
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