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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:52 pm
by Explorer
Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:06 pm
by LowNSlow
ericheath wrote:So you found new needles? I’m trying to envision how they could fall out of the slides... worn out? Wrong ones?
2 piece needle. Main needle separated from the “keeper” disc. Apparently, they are pressed together, but didn’t stay that way.
Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:08 pm
by LowNSlow
Three different problems:
1) crap in the tank initially shut me down.
2) ignition timing was retarded (seems like I remember the coil pickup plate screwsbeing a smidge loose)
3) somewhere along these struggles, 2 main jet needles “dropped”
Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:12 pm
by ericheath
I can’t make it out, but the pic looks as though these were OEM needles.
Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:31 pm
by Track T 2411
At least one other member had the same issue with the needles separating just like that. Definitely an odd occurrence!
Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:15 am
by robin1731
Track T 2411 wrote:At least one other member had the same issue with the needles separating just like that. Definitely an odd occurrence!
Yeah, I've been in lots of these carbs and have not seen that. Seen some other odd things though.
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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:36 pm
by Sidecar Bob
I wonder if they could be soldered back together?
Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:24 pm
by robin1731
Sidecar Bob wrote:I wonder if they could be soldered back together?
Might work. You would have to make sure there was no solder under the "hat". That would make the needle set up a bit higher and would affect the jetting. Also would have to really make sure the "hat" was down all the way where it is in stock form. For the same reason.
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Re: Idles and revs great in neutral, runs like crap around the block
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:47 pm
by LowNSlow
robin1731 wrote:Sidecar Bob wrote:I wonder if they could be soldered back together?
Might work. You would have to make sure there was no solder under the "hat". That would make the needle set up a bit higher and would affect the jetting. Also would have to really make sure the "hat" was down all the way where it is in stock form. For the same reason.
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I soldered them back together and then carefully filed away in that interference area you mention. Working great so far.