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Rear wheel install

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I’ve got a problem I hope somebody can help me with. I’ve just had my rear wheel bearings replaced by a local shop, and I can’t seem to get the wheel back on. Lol. It’s a 76. No matter what I do, I can’t get the wheel spacer and caliper to cooperate. I’ve pulled the wheel off and back on several times. It seems like it’s seating on the hub all the way. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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You mean there is not enough clearance on the axle space to get both installed?
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Whiskerfish wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 7:11 am You mean there is not enough clearance on the axle space to get both installed?
Exactly. With the spacer in, the caliper won’t fit between the swingarm, and spacer. I can’t figure it out. The only thing had been done is bearing replacement.
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Whiskerfish wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 7:11 am You mean there is not enough clearance on the axle space to get both installed?
I’m thinking I may have a problem with the break pads. Maybe. And, I also noticed the shop I carried it too, has installed the small bearing to far in. It’s against the inner sleeve. Is there any way to remedy this, besides redoing it all? I have another set of bearings, and was wondering if there’s a way to just replace the small bearing. Or, maybe a way to snatch the one that’s in there back out a tad without ruining it. The knew I should have done this myself. I even said something to the mechanic about it, and he kinda took it as an insult. Said he’d done hundreds of these. Bahahaha. I’d take it back, but they had it for two weeks to begin with.
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Been a while since I did one but I can not imagine the small bearing being too far in. I would make sure the bearing retainer is in all the way and if I could not find anything wrong replace all of it with fresh. Getting bearings out without damage is not likely.
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The sleeve is a spacer between the two bearings. The bearing is supposed to be up against it.
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Old Fogey wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 7:14 am The sleeve is a spacer between the two bearings. The bearing is supposed to be up against it.
I’ve always thought the sleeve was supposed to be a little loose. I’m just worried about side loading the bearings.
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Whiskerfish wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 6:58 am Been a while since I did one but I can not imagine the small bearing being too far in. I would make sure the bearing retainer is in all the way and if I could not find anything wrong replace all of it with fresh. Getting bearings out without damage is not likely.
That’s what I was afraid of. LOLOL
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Well, I’ve tried everything to get this wheel back on. Nothing works. No matter what I do, there’s just not enough space for the caliper. Can’t even bolt it to the frame when it’s set on the disc. Almost like the wheel is not going all the way on the hub. Although it looks fine to me. Almost a quarter of an inch off. This has got me stumped.
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The wheel spacer actually sits on the bearing on the left side. The right side bearing is driven to the stops. So, the left side bearing is the only one that kinda floats. I’m thinking now maybe it’s the wrong bearings, and they’re too wide? I’m completely stumped on this.
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The outside pad on the caliper, is flush with the inside of the caliper, so it’s not that. A pic with the wheel flush on the hub. The space on the second pic measures 1.379”. The caliper mount measures 1.589”. No way it’s going on there. Lol
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I believe that spacer should insert into the wheel further than in the picture through a seal. Been awhile yet I likely have some pictures. The bearings have specific numbers for each side unless you used no name ones or mounted them incorrectly in each side. Don’t know if that is possible yet I think they both are about the same diameter.
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flyin900 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 5:47 pm I believe that spacer should insert into the wheel further than in the picture through a seal. Been awhile yet I likely have some pictures. The bearings have specific numbers for each side unless you used no name ones or mounted them incorrectly in each side. Don’t know if that is possible yet I think they both are about the same diameter.
Yep. The spacer goes through a seal, and bottoms on the bearing. I had a shop put the bearings in for me. They look correct. I’m really not sure what’s going on. I’ve had this wheel off and on so many times, I can’t count them. First time for new bearings though. Which leads me to believe that’s where the problem is.
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Um, the axle goes in from the left side (as you're sitting on the bike), although I'm not sure that alone would make a difference...
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Only have the left side pic of the 76 GL.


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