No Spark 75 GL1000
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No Spark 75 GL1000
Hi guys,
The bike had been running fine and I ran it dry last time I stopped it because I knew I would be at least 6 weeks to do the brakes. I finished the brakes today and went to give it a run and could not get it to fire. Turning over fine, battery new and strong. Kill switch not on, petrol full and fine. I took a plug out and held it against the head while turning over and no spark. Any ideas or easy thing to check before pulling down. It has the Dyna S (from memory) electronic ignition which has never missed a beat.
The bike had been running fine and I ran it dry last time I stopped it because I knew I would be at least 6 weeks to do the brakes. I finished the brakes today and went to give it a run and could not get it to fire. Turning over fine, battery new and strong. Kill switch not on, petrol full and fine. I took a plug out and held it against the head while turning over and no spark. Any ideas or easy thing to check before pulling down. It has the Dyna S (from memory) electronic ignition which has never missed a beat.
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
Off/Run/Off right handlebar switch is in the Run position?
Last edited by gltriker on Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
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"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
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'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
Red positive wire to the DynaS has adequate battery voltage ? Fused connection.
Check the fuses in the fuse box, too.
Check the fuses in the fuse box, too.
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
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1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
I can check that out, but not tonight as daylight is getting away from me. Thanks.
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
I did get a chance to check.
Red wire was 11.86 volt and the battery was 12.18 volt
Fuses all tested out fine
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
I looked at your topics history and found this one from 2013 about another No Spark situation.
viewtopic.php?t=47053
This old discussion may be helpful again?
Best of luck.
viewtopic.php?t=47053
This old discussion may be helpful again?
Best of luck.
Cliff (74yrs )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
Thanks gltriker. That’s an old post. Nothing I could see there that would help me however. I will look up how to test the diodes and then test those.gltriker wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:03 am I looked at your topics history and found this one from 2013 about another No Spark situation.
viewtopic.php?t=47053
This old discussion may be helpful again?
Best of luck.
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
I would check power at the ballast resister if you have one.
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
Thanks gltriker. That’s an old post. Nothing I could see there that would help me however. I will look up how to test the diodes and then test those.
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Well this is one for the brains trust.I checked the diodes for continuity. The one on the right with green and red wire had continuity, and the one on the left with yellow and red had no continuity. I thought the yellow and red wire was ignition and thought I hit the jackpot.
When I just used the good diode in the yellow and red slot or swapped them over I had no ignition at all. But when I put them both back in it turns over and no spark. Shouldn’t it turn over with one diode in the ignition diode, or does it need two good diodes to turn over and have ignition?
Any advice would be heaps appreciated. Also are the after market diodes from China on eBay any good, or do you need second hand originals? I bought my last one from Wingovation in England 8 years ago.
[/quote]
Well this is one for the brains trust.I checked the diodes for continuity. The one on the right with green and red wire had continuity, and the one on the left with yellow and red had no continuity. I thought the yellow and red wire was ignition and thought I hit the jackpot.
When I just used the good diode in the yellow and red slot or swapped them over I had no ignition at all. But when I put them both back in it turns over and no spark. Shouldn’t it turn over with one diode in the ignition diode, or does it need two good diodes to turn over and have ignition?
Any advice would be heaps appreciated. Also are the after market diodes from China on eBay any good, or do you need second hand originals? I bought my last one from Wingovation in England 8 years ago.
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
Before the coffee has sunk in but IIRC if it cranks then the diodes are out of the picture for spark.
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
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2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
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1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
Sorry Whiskerfish, I don’t get it?Whiskerfish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:02 am Before the coffee has sunk in but IIRC if it cranks then the diodes are out of the picture for spark.
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
I have not looked in a while but I do not recall the Ignition circuit going through the Diodes? The Starter circuit yes for the safety interlocks.
You have a dyna right? So first check power for the dyna. On the 75's most people used those blue scotch locks to tap power from the turn signal wire under the left side shelter. Once you verify you have power for the dyna then verify power for the coils. I would do that at the Ballast resister.
Ignition circuit power comes out of the Key switch then to the Kill switch and start button but I do not think it goes through the diodes????
You have a dyna right? So first check power for the dyna. On the 75's most people used those blue scotch locks to tap power from the turn signal wire under the left side shelter. Once you verify you have power for the dyna then verify power for the coils. I would do that at the Ballast resister.
Ignition circuit power comes out of the Key switch then to the Kill switch and start button but I do not think it goes through the diodes????
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
Thanks Whiskerfish. Dyna has power at the red wire. I have ordered another diode today in Australia, from a motorcycle wreckers who had one on a Honda XL175 (same diode). Is there a reference somewhere on how to test the ballast resistor on the GL1000? New to me.Whiskerfish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:05 am I have not looked in a while but I do not recall the Ignition circuit going through the Diodes? The Starter circuit yes for the safety interlocks.
You have a dyna right? So first check power for the dyna. On the 75's most people used those blue scotch locks to tap power from the turn signal wire under the left side shelter. Once you verify you have power for the dyna then verify power for the coils. I would do that at the Ballast resister.
Ignition circuit power comes out of the Key switch then to the Kill switch and start button but I do not think it goes through the diodes????
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Re: No Spark 75 GL1000
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Thanks Whiskerfish. Dyna has power at the red wire. I have ordered another diode today in Australia, from a motorcycle wreckers who had one on a Honda XL175 (same diode). Is there a reference somewhere on how to test the ballast resistor on the GL1000? New to me.
[/quote]
Forget that question. I just found the testing procedure on Randakks site.
Thanks Whiskerfish. Dyna has power at the red wire. I have ordered another diode today in Australia, from a motorcycle wreckers who had one on a Honda XL175 (same diode). Is there a reference somewhere on how to test the ballast resistor on the GL1000? New to me.
[/quote]
Forget that question. I just found the testing procedure on Randakks site.
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