83' GL1100 Tire replacement Suggestions

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Re: 83' GL1100 Tire replacement Suggestions

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Its a visual thing for me.. The stock tire looks anemically narrow.. My last ride was a '90 Kawasaki ZX1100 with a 170/60VR17 tire on a 5.5in wide wheel, it looked great..
Sidecar Bob wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:31 am Why does everyone want wider tires? All they do is make it harder to lean into turns....
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Crazzy450z wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:20 am Its a visual thing for me.. The stock tire looks anemically narrow.. My last ride was a '90 Kawasaki ZX1100 with a 170/60VR17 tire on a 5.5in wide wheel, it looked great..
Sidecar Bob wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:31 am Why does everyone want wider tires? All they do is make it harder to lean into turns....
I guess "looks" are O.K. if you spend more time looking at your bike then riding. I like riding
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I think some of them have heard Bicycle Race & Fat Bottomed Girls too many times and started having erotic thoughts about fat bottomed cycles :roll:
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I guess any sport bike built after the early 90's cant turn then?? or any GL1800's??
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Crazzy450z wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:20 am Its a visual thing for me.. The stock tire looks anemically narrow.. My last ride was a '90 Kawasaki ZX1100 with a 170/60VR17 tire on a 5.5in wide wheel, it looked great..
Sidecar Bob wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:31 am Why does everyone want wider tires? All they do is make it harder to lean into turns....
I guess "looks" are O.K. if you spend more time looking at your bike then riding. I like riding
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Not as well as they could if they had narrower tires.

The problem is that as power increases beyond a certain point sticky sport bike tires wear faster than is considered acceptable and the only way to improve tire life is to either decrease the power to a more sensible level, make the tires less sticky or use wider tires and accept the increased turning effort.

That may be necessary when you can design everything else around it but when you are dealing with a bike that wasn't designed around excessively fat tires it is just a way to make it work less well.
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All bikes are different from each other, and are dessigned, by the manufacture, for a specific function. Tires are specified for that function. Re-designing a bikes funtion involves more then tire choice. Drag slicks don't work well in the twisties, and street tires don't work well on the drag strip. If "looks"are what you are after, go with what you like the look of. But if you want performance, it may not be the same tire.
you get my point.....or you don't. We have moved on from the bikes, and tires, that were available in the 90's. What ever you believe, or makes you happy, is fine with me. Enjoy the sport...that's what it's all about.
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Sidecar Bob wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:42 pm Not as well as they could if they had narrower tires.

The problem is that as power increases beyond a certain point sticky sport bike tires wear faster than is considered acceptable and the only way to improve tire life is to either decrease the power to a more sensible level, make the tires less sticky or use wider tires and accept the increased turning effort.

That may be necessary when you can design everything else around it but when you are dealing with a bike that wasn't designed around excessively fat tires it is just a way to make it work less well.
well said. I agree
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CYBORG wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:10 am I think it is a drag racing mentality. And Americans have always had a "bigger is better" mind set.
are you saying size doesn't matter? lolol
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Jeez … I hope not …

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Size does matter but it isn't bigger vs smaller it is correct size vs incorrect size and too big is as bad as not big enough.
You would think people that work with wrenches regularly would know the importance of using the correct size :orange
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Only got one 'wench' … er … 'wrench' …

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Shall we open the discussion to putting on knobby tires to make a GW "Scrambler"? 😁
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Shadowjack wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:18 am Shall we open the discussion to putting on knobby tires to make a GW "Scrambler"? 😁
and the best oil to use as well :twisted:
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Shadowjack wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:18 am Shall we open the discussion to putting on knobby tires to make a GW "Scrambler"? 😁
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I knew there'd be somebody along directly. 😁
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