Lets talk pipe wrap
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Lets talk pipe wrap
I kinda like it but is it damaging to the engine by keeping more heat in than is necessary?
I don't believe in there being any gains unlike ceramic coating.
So, lets hear your thoughts and opinions please.
I don't believe in there being any gains unlike ceramic coating.
So, lets hear your thoughts and opinions please.
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
looks great..
will rust your headers out.
will rust your headers out.
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
Please explain that5speed wrote:looks great..
will rust your headers out.
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
I've never used wrap but I did a lot of research because I wanted to wrap the headers on my camaro to reduce under hood heat.
The wrap retains water..and I didn't want my brand new headers rusting out. A lot of the info I read mentioned the pipes rusting out due to the wrap retaining water and road grime.
Maybe the articles I read were cases of people installing it wrong I don't know.
Of course this isn't a concern with stainless pipes.
I chose to go with ceramic coating and 10 years later they still look brand new and there was a noticeable drop in under hood temps.
You can buy spray cans of ceramic coating now although I have no experience with them in regards to quality and durability.
Here is a before and after of my headers. the person that coated them for me told me to run them for a summer to burn the finish off then bring them to him.
The wrap retains water..and I didn't want my brand new headers rusting out. A lot of the info I read mentioned the pipes rusting out due to the wrap retaining water and road grime.
Maybe the articles I read were cases of people installing it wrong I don't know.
Of course this isn't a concern with stainless pipes.
I chose to go with ceramic coating and 10 years later they still look brand new and there was a noticeable drop in under hood temps.
You can buy spray cans of ceramic coating now although I have no experience with them in regards to quality and durability.
Here is a before and after of my headers. the person that coated them for me told me to run them for a summer to burn the finish off then bring them to him.
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1982 1100 standard. (sold)
1986 Yamaha FJ1200
2000 Yamaha Roadstar
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.
2019 Can-Am ryker (boss's new ride)
2002 Shadow American Classic(sold)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1986 Yamaha FJ1200
2000 Yamaha Roadstar
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.
2019 Can-Am ryker (boss's new ride)
2002 Shadow American Classic(sold)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
UK_Andy wrote:I kinda like it but is it damaging to the engine by keeping more heat in than is necessary?I don't believe in there being any gains unlike ceramic coating.In race engines we wrap or ceramic coat to keep the heat in. It can create a bit of power by keeping the exhaust hot which helps pull it out of the pipe.
So, lets hear your thoughts and opinions please.
As far as rusting I think Sunnbobb had some on for awhiel. Removed it and the pipes were still in good shape. Might depend on if you ride in the rain. If you don't then they won't get wet.
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1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
or maybe the ones I saw where bikes left outside in the weather..they certainly wouldn't be wet very long if you were riding..robin1731 wrote:[
As far as rusting I think Sunnbobb had some on for awhiel. Removed it and the pipes were still in good shape. Might depend on if you ride in the rain. If you don't then they won't get wet.
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I love the look of it and if I had stainless pipes I would wrap them if they went with my build.
1982 1100 standard. (sold)
1986 Yamaha FJ1200
2000 Yamaha Roadstar
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.
2019 Can-Am ryker (boss's new ride)
2002 Shadow American Classic(sold)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1986 Yamaha FJ1200
2000 Yamaha Roadstar
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.
2019 Can-Am ryker (boss's new ride)
2002 Shadow American Classic(sold)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
Wont rust pipes. I've been running it for several years, no issues, I keep my bike indoors. As for the engine, I've not had any heat issues either. As for performance, I don't notice any difference. I just like how it looks. LOL
As for wrap, the more expensive wrap is the best. It actually hardens once it's hot and wont unwrap or wear.
As for wrap, the more expensive wrap is the best. It actually hardens once it's hot and wont unwrap or wear.
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1980 County Road Hauler "Brain Damage"
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1977 Bulldog Inspired "Vaincre"
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
I don't know about rusty pipes - but "in theory" pipe wrap gives the same performance benefits as ceramic coating. By insulating the pipe, the exhaust gasses retain a higher temperature, which in turn allows better flow through the system. Again, that's the theory. Does it work? Beats me. I heard there is a guy who has a carburetor that allows my '75 Bonneville to get 100 MPG too!
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1979 Yamaha XS750SF
Previous:
1978 GL1000 - JUNE 2017 BOTM: Sold
2006 Kawasaki Concours: Sold
1995 Kawasaki Concours: Crashed/totalled.
1976 GL1000: LAST RESTORATION, sold
1981 Honda CB900F Supersport: 3rd restoration, sold.
1979 Yamaha XS-750F: 2nd restoration, sold.
1982 Honda FT-500 Ascot: First (only) new bike. Family forces sale.
1973 CB500 Four: First restoration, long gone.
1972 Suzuki TS-100: First bike, sold.
Only dead fish go with the flow . . .
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
I thought that pipe wrap would keep heat in and ceramic coating would help it run cooler.
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
UK_Andy wrote:I thought that pipe wrap would keep heat in and ceramic coating would help it run cooler.
No, same principle. It does make a little more power. Only seen on a dyno or at the track though.
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1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: Lets talk pipe wrap
1982 1100 standard. (sold)
1986 Yamaha FJ1200
2000 Yamaha Roadstar
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.
2019 Can-Am ryker (boss's new ride)
2002 Shadow American Classic(sold)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1986 Yamaha FJ1200
2000 Yamaha Roadstar
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.
2019 Can-Am ryker (boss's new ride)
2002 Shadow American Classic(sold)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
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