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New alternative fuels speed record
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New alternative fuels speed record
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Re: New alternative fuels speed record
Interesting. We had a fella here a few months ago that was going to build a wing that ran on charcoal. Have not seen him for a bit though.
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2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
and a whole garage full of possibilities!!
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: New alternative fuels speed record
I remember seeing pics of WW 2 cars that burned charcoal but they had huge boilers on the roof.Whiskerfish wrote:Interesting. We had a fella here a few months ago that was going to build a wing that ran on charcoal. Have not seen him for a bit though.
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Re: New alternative fuels speed record
Not boilers, gassifiers. They heat the charcoal up and cause it to emit wood gas which is fed into the carburettor instead of air. Since the wood gas is combustible no other fuel is needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator
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Re: New alternative fuels speed record
One thing that confuses me, (ONLY ONE!!!
) and I'm obviously not a scientist, is why can't cars and bikes run on water?
Water is made up from hydrogen, an explosive gas, and oxygen which will fuel a fire, and yet when they are combined as in H2O, that is what we use world wide to put out fires. Now if someone could invent a small unit that separates water into those two elements and use them to run a car/bike, then there would be no need to worry about the oil running out. Maybe someone has but the Arabs have paid them off!
I daresay someone as knowledgeable as Mike Nixon will submit a 40 page explanation as to why it isn't possible........yet!


Water is made up from hydrogen, an explosive gas, and oxygen which will fuel a fire, and yet when they are combined as in H2O, that is what we use world wide to put out fires. Now if someone could invent a small unit that separates water into those two elements and use them to run a car/bike, then there would be no need to worry about the oil running out. Maybe someone has but the Arabs have paid them off!

I daresay someone as knowledgeable as Mike Nixon will submit a 40 page explanation as to why it isn't possible........yet!




Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
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Re: New alternative fuels speed record
Google Hydrogen Separator
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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Re: New alternative fuels speed record
Interesting reading and not as easy as it sounds to run a car on water. Maybe in a few years time.Sidecar Bob wrote:Google Hydrogen Separator
Had a rant before on electric cars which the politicians seem to want, by 2040, but just don't believe it's feasible. I mean if, and it's a big if, we all had electric cars, can you imagine all the cables needed to charge them overnight. And what's to stop people on the way back from a night out unplugging cars 'for a laugh'? And trying to queue to use a charger that takes hours to charge one car so you can get home. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong, usually am, but I'll be too old to drive by then.



Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
- Sidecar Bob
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- Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:14 pm
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Re: New alternative fuels speed record
Electric cars might be OK in cities but they would be marginal where I live and useless where I was last week. There is nothing at all on the Trans Labrador Highway between the few settled places; To be useful there a vehicle would need to be able to make it from Labrador City and Churchill Falls (240 Km), from Churchill Falls to Happy Valley/Goose Bay (290 Km) and from HV/GB to Cartwright (390 Km).
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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