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Re: GL1200 engine to Gl1100 frame

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To just turn it over, not running, just a ground and a jumper cable to the starter. Moves oil around, starts loosening rings. Compression test could be done. I assume you turned it over by hand first.
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Thanks Eric,

Yeah I did turn it over by hand and ran a compression test after the fact, 140 all around except for 145 on the #3. My 30 amp fuse was on the starter relay was blown, so I dug around and found a 15 amp and tried that out... I got nothing from the kill switch. So i bypassed it with a wrench and got it to turn over just fine. I need to get a light tester to see where I'm not getting power. Do you think the starter relay would function fine with a 15 amp fuse as opposed to 30 amp?
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I can't spell lectristy. It might be worth putting an inline breaker for occasional spikes. They can hide potential problems but they are handy for first time setup like you're in. That's what I have on mine. I just put them in where a blade fuse goes, one on each of the lines from the solenoid. I think yours is similar. IIRC mine were from an old S10 Chev.
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
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Just grabbed one today, thanks Eric.

Ive been trying to figure out this electrical problem for awhile now, referencing the wiring diagram and I'm having no luck. Ive got power going to all of my fuses except for a 5 amp parking fuse, which i replaced... power going to, and coming from the power switch when I switch it on, power going into the resistor beneath the coils and out into the right ignition coil and then into the left, and then I have power going from there to the two male plugs that plug into the spark units, but Im not able to trace the spark from there. I have no spark coming out of the coils where the plug wires attach. Is there a way to test the spark units maybe?

I know its difficult to picture this, but any insight on this would be appreciated.
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Just spoke to a goldwing specialist out in the Bay Area about where I'm running into problems and he basically said I'm screwed. He said the best option for me is to get an 84 1200 wiring harness and swap into the 82 frame which would involve wiring in an ECU and a new timing system, or re wire the plugs from the pulse generators in the back of the 84 engine to where the spark units on the 82 plug into. Im the least qualified person to do anything of that sort, Is it really as dismal as he made it sound?
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Unless you use your 1100 heads/cams and ignition. I am not sure, but I think you could just use your 82 ignition and not need the ECU and keep the 84 heads on. Carbs of your choice.
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
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Did the Goldwing specialist know that your GL1200 motor is an '84?
As Eric said, your old GL1100 pulse generator unit mounts the same as the '84 GL1200 pulse generator unit. They can supposedly be swapped. Need to swap all the old parts, including the housings, pickup coils, rotor/advance mechanism and drive shaft. Need to add that I haven't actually done it myself, just remember researching it a few years ago.
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socrace wrote:Did the Goldwing specialist know that your GL1200 motor is an '84?
As Eric said, your old GL1100 pulse generator unit mounts the same as the '84 GL1200 pulse generator unit. They can supposedly be swapped. Need to swap all the old parts, including the housings, pickup coils, rotor/advance mechanism and drive shaft. Need to add that I haven't actually done it myself, just remember researching it a few years ago.
Yeah he did, those guys can sometimes be overly skeptical. I actually just came across the same information on goldwingfacts.com, and saw that Eric had also mentioned there that it can be done. The bitter irony is that I will have to pull my engine again.
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
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Re: GL1200 engine to Gl1100 frame

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I have a half finished '79 project that I am working on. After lapping the valves I accidentally allowed the right head to fall off the table onto the concrete floor. Seemed OK until I realized the end of the cam had snapped off. I ordered a 1200 electric pump (Not the high pressure one I need for the other project) and it came with a chrome bracket that easily bolts onto the side of the GL1000 engine (final gear access cover if I remember correctly) so as long as you get the mounting bracket you will have no trouble mounting it. I haven't gotten as far as wiring it yet but I am not expecting a problem. Hopefully it will just be a direct connection to a switched hot lead and a ground.
If anyone knows more about the electrical connection, both of us would like to know about that.
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CYBORG wrote:I would run the Ground side of the pump, to an y good frame ground. And the positive to the fuse box circuit that is hot when the key is one. Some woulde run it thru a tip over switch

I was probably going to just find some sort of hose clamp and attach it to a mountain bracket somewhere. Cyborg mentioned this earlier about wiring the fuel pump
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