The NGW Project Bike. Timing belts. Removal/installation
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8) After I struggle ,curse,spit,and read the service manual a jillion times I stumble upon this blessed Post. You are a prince among men! Thank you a Zillion times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even an old dog like me could understand it, and I suffer from CRS.................hahahaha
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Octane's got two timing threads in his "Corner". One is for Dyna ignition and the other is GL1000 Points/Ignition.
I've made a PDF of the one for GL1000 but it has yet to be approved by Octane (dunno where he is lately). I'm gonna share it here but bear in mind that it may not be 100% accurate. Click here to Download the 1MB PDF of Octane's Points / Ignition Timing thread.
I've made a PDF of the one for GL1000 but it has yet to be approved by Octane (dunno where he is lately). I'm gonna share it here but bear in mind that it may not be 100% accurate. Click here to Download the 1MB PDF of Octane's Points / Ignition Timing thread.
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thank you
i would just like to thank octane for this easy to follow timing belt change
i would never have had the guts to do it with out cheers mate.
just to add i stopped the right cam from moving by installing a treaded bar by hand into the cover retaining bolt hole and took a spanner i cut it in half and drilled a hole so that it would pass through the bar ,with a nut below and above to secure it before i took of the belts i placed the spanner onto the pully nut then took of the belts ,and nothing moved leaving my hands and mind free to consantrate on the job. i took pictures but cant work out how to post them sorry .
cheers john h
i would never have had the guts to do it with out cheers mate.
just to add i stopped the right cam from moving by installing a treaded bar by hand into the cover retaining bolt hole and took a spanner i cut it in half and drilled a hole so that it would pass through the bar ,with a nut below and above to secure it before i took of the belts i placed the spanner onto the pully nut then took of the belts ,and nothing moved leaving my hands and mind free to consantrate on the job. i took pictures but cant work out how to post them sorry .
cheers john h
hallo my name is john and i have just bought a gl 1000 1977 thanks to the help of this site
cheers john h
cheers john h
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Timing Belt Cover Gasket Loose
I just changed belts, adjusters and springs on a '78 GL1000.
It went smoothly except that the portion of the timing cover seal that is supposed to be trapped in the middle between the left and right sides is not tightly clamped. I can move it with my finger enough to feel the edge of the timing cover. There is maybe .020" [0.5mm] overlap of the seal on the valve cover. Is this normal? Should I have another go at installing the timing belt covers? It does not appear to have any slop that would allow me to shift the position of the covers. It seems like Honda would not have intended this seal to be so loose.
I have seen other threads that call for a 6-9 lb-ft torque spec for the timing belt cover. Can anybody confirm that from a Honda source?
Thanks in advance for any help I receive. This continues to be one of the best forums on the internet.
It went smoothly except that the portion of the timing cover seal that is supposed to be trapped in the middle between the left and right sides is not tightly clamped. I can move it with my finger enough to feel the edge of the timing cover. There is maybe .020" [0.5mm] overlap of the seal on the valve cover. Is this normal? Should I have another go at installing the timing belt covers? It does not appear to have any slop that would allow me to shift the position of the covers. It seems like Honda would not have intended this seal to be so loose.
I have seen other threads that call for a 6-9 lb-ft torque spec for the timing belt cover. Can anybody confirm that from a Honda source?
Thanks in advance for any help I receive. This continues to be one of the best forums on the internet.
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'78 GL1000_VIN #238 long term project
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'78 GL1000_VIN #238 long term project
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Those covers are not a weathertight seal. They don't have to contain oil, either. The bolts have collars that prevent them from pulling the covers in. So 6-8 ft.lbs. is just to keep the bolts from backing out and ending up on the pavement.
I have been able to loosen all 4 bolts and shift the covers around a bit to get a more snug fit on the gaskets. But, that's a major pain in the butt if you've already installed the radiator.
I have been able to loosen all 4 bolts and shift the covers around a bit to get a more snug fit on the gaskets. But, that's a major pain in the butt if you've already installed the radiator.
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Timing cover seal; loose fit
Thanks Roady,
I understand that the timing covers are not a tight seal. Given that there are open passage ways cast into the lower edge of the covers. I am not sure if they are drain holes to help diagnose oil and coolant leakage or if they are intended to maintain ambient air pressure inside the covers. Perhaps both.
In any case thanks for your response. I just wanted to know if other people have seen this issue and if there was need for a fix. I expect I will just leave it alone. I have to complete the reassembly of the front cover and timing covers on the '84 so I must let go of the minor issues with the '78 for now. I am rapidly running out of riding season here in Vermont ( the '78 will not be ridden this year) and these last weeks, though chilly, are by far the most beautiful. Thanks again for your input.
I understand that the timing covers are not a tight seal. Given that there are open passage ways cast into the lower edge of the covers. I am not sure if they are drain holes to help diagnose oil and coolant leakage or if they are intended to maintain ambient air pressure inside the covers. Perhaps both.
In any case thanks for your response. I just wanted to know if other people have seen this issue and if there was need for a fix. I expect I will just leave it alone. I have to complete the reassembly of the front cover and timing covers on the '84 so I must let go of the minor issues with the '78 for now. I am rapidly running out of riding season here in Vermont ( the '78 will not be ridden this year) and these last weeks, though chilly, are by far the most beautiful. Thanks again for your input.
'84 GL1200 Standard_solid fair weather driver
'78 GL1000_VIN #238 long term project
'01 Triumph Speed Triple
'78 GL1000_VIN #238 long term project
'01 Triumph Speed Triple
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Thanks for the article!
"You folks" give the internet a GOOD NAME!!!! I've been working on my vehicles before I ever owned one, so I'm quite familiar with all of my vehicles' shop manuals. But Youse Guyze (I'm originally from 'Jersey) beat 'em all! If a picture is worth a thousand words - yours are worth a few shop manuals! Thanks for all the great pix - they make the procedures SO MUCH easier to visualize!
Ken
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