Another GL650 owner
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Another GL650 owner
Sold my 78 GL1000 last week, local broker picked it up and getting it shipped to Norway:
Today, picked me up an early birthday present for cheap
83 GL650 Interstate, +13k mi., runs decent, cosmetically 60-70%, PO took a nice tumble that had some nice scratches on the sidecases and topbox, dent on exhaust headers and the swingarm; but rides nice, tracks straight, no wiggle at 70+ mph when I let go of the handlebars.
Tires, forkseals, brakes all in decent shape, there may be a cafe/bobber in my near future.
Today, picked me up an early birthday present for cheap
83 GL650 Interstate, +13k mi., runs decent, cosmetically 60-70%, PO took a nice tumble that had some nice scratches on the sidecases and topbox, dent on exhaust headers and the swingarm; but rides nice, tracks straight, no wiggle at 70+ mph when I let go of the handlebars.
Tires, forkseals, brakes all in decent shape, there may be a cafe/bobber in my near future.
1983 GL650 SilverWing Interstate
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Re: Another GL650 owner
Got to say I hated my GL650, but I had it after my GL1100, maybe I was expecting to much. Came to a head when I had to change the rear tyre. Long story short, ended up back at the dealer who had to use a bar on the swing arm to make enough room to remove the wheel! Maybe it was made on a Friday afternoon, but got rid of it soon after.
Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
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Re: Another GL650 owner
At least you know it's your problemchewy999 wrote:Got to say I hated my GL650, but I had it after my GL1100, maybe I was expecting to much.
I'm happy with my purchase, much more so than the GL1000.
1983 GL650 SilverWing Interstate
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Re: Another GL650 owner
Never mean to offend, but one of the best things about this world of ours, is that we are all different, with different tastes in everything, and as I said, maybe I bought a rogue model. Sure there are many satisfied GL650 riders, but just explaining what I found.[i] wrote:At least you know it's your problemchewy999 wrote:Got to say I hated my GL650, but I had it after my GL1100, maybe I was expecting to much.
I'm happy with my purchase, much more so than the GL1000.
Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
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Re: Another GL650 owner
I loved mine. Until the timing chain guides came apart.
Then I liked itba little less.
But not much.
Then I liked itba little less.
But not much.
God bless those who protect our freedom, at every level
Knees in the breeze makes miles of smiles
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"Strive for progress, not perfection"-a wise man
1984 1200 standard
click pic to see my gallery
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Re: Another GL650 owner
What was the circumstance?duke182 wrote:I loved mine. Until the timing chain guides came apart.
Then I liked itba little less.
But not much.
how many miles?
ridden hard?
maintained properly?
Gotta be a story behind it.
1983 GL650 SilverWing Interstate
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Re: Another GL650 owner
Talk about butchers. I hope you never, ever let that dealer work on anything of yours again. If the tire is the stock size you should be able to get it between the final drive and the swingarm if you let the air out. If the tire is wider than stock you sometimes have to remove the final drive.chewy999 wrote:Long story short, ended up back at the dealer who had to use a bar on the swing arm to make enough room to remove the wheel!
As for how much pep they have,
GL1000 - 80 HP/650 Lb.
GL650 - 65 HP/500 Lb.
Add in your weight and do the math. For anyone under about 200 Lb the ratio should be about the same.
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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Re: Another GL650 owner
The circumstance surrounding the failure was not exciting.[i] wrote:What was the circumstance?duke182 wrote:I loved mine. Until the timing chain guides came apart.
Then I liked itba little less.
But not much.
how many miles?
ridden hard?
maintained properly?
Gotta be a story behind it.
Riding home from work shifted into third, in traffic so only mild acceleration, and the motor quit. determined the cause later after being towed home at the end of a rope. Behind a friends 56 chevy. We sure got some crazy looks.
Dont remember the milage.
Too lazy to go look.
Rode it everyday for 15 months.
Sometimes very briskly but never, ok maybe twice I can remember, in a really agressive manner.
Normal maintainance
But looking back I guess I was a day late giving it what cx riders call the triple bypass.
Really a fun bike to ride.
I'll put mine back in service someday.
I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine
Be sure to check the cam chain adjuster and guides, the waterpump and the stator and rectifier.
Oh yeah, check your tire air pressure regularly.
But thats another story...
God bless those who protect our freedom, at every level
Knees in the breeze makes miles of smiles
"Strive for progress, not perfection"-a wise man
1984 1200 standard
click pic to see my gallery
vote in my poll
Knees in the breeze makes miles of smiles
"Strive for progress, not perfection"-a wise man
1984 1200 standard
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Re: Another GL650 owner
The tyre was the original, and I'd owned a CX500 and GL1100 (and at the time I was an RAF engineer), so expected the wheel change to be easy. Even the dealer had problems. May be wrong, but seem to remember the problem was a spacer that just couldn't clear the space to allow the wheel to come out, (without a little persuasion)!Sidecar Bob wrote:Talk about butchers. I hope you never, ever let that dealer work on anything of yours again. If the tire is the stock size you should be able to get it between the final drive and the swingarm if you let the air out. If the tire is wider than stock you sometimes have to remove the final drive.chewy999 wrote:Long story short, ended up back at the dealer who had to use a bar on the swing arm to make enough room to remove the wheel!
Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
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Re: Another GL650 owner
3 nuts and the final drive is off and there is more room than you could ever need. You would think someone who was supposed to know what they were doing would be able to figure that out instead of prying the swingarm out of line, wouldn't you?
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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Re: Another GL650 owner
You mean the rear tire on a direct drive motorcycle can be changed without removing that big pumpkin? Dang, all these years, I've be doing it the hard way, taking off those 3 little nuts! You learn something new on this forum every day.
The difficult can be done in a day. The impossible takes a little longer, if you don't know it can't be done.
'75 GL YelloWing, '73 Norton Commando, '79 CB750, '80 Fiat Spyder, '83 Silverado w/ BB Cad, to name a few.
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'76 Yello Café to be
'83 CX650C Needs Work
'83 CX650C #2 Daily Rider
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10 others in the project/parts pile
'75 GL YelloWing, '73 Norton Commando, '79 CB750, '80 Fiat Spyder, '83 Silverado w/ BB Cad, to name a few.
'79 Black Hondaline/Vetter bagger Tourer
'76 Yello Café to be
'83 CX650C Needs Work
'83 CX650C #2 Daily Rider
'79 Yamaha XS750
10 others in the project/parts pile
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Re: Another GL650 owner
Even if your tire is narrow enough to fit without removing the FD, you really should at least loosen those nuts and re-tighten them after the axle nut is done up to make sure everything is lined up properly anyway...
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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Not sure what the big deal removing the rear wheel... centerstand, add another 1" block of wood under each centerstand legs; one at a time, easily get clearance under the bike to remove the rear wheel.
I've removed the rear crashbars from my GL, it was hitting the swingarm as the shock compresses:
Bike feel lighter without the side cases and rear crashbars:
So far I've put about 200 miles on it, 3.96 gal. of fuel used.. considering all the extra weight it still carries:
I've removed the rear crashbars from my GL, it was hitting the swingarm as the shock compresses:
Bike feel lighter without the side cases and rear crashbars:
So far I've put about 200 miles on it, 3.96 gal. of fuel used.. considering all the extra weight it still carries:
1983 GL650 SilverWing Interstate
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Re: Another GL650 owner
Anyone know of a suitable rear shock replacement for the OEM air shock?
The OEM rear shock feels like a pogo stick, wishy-washy feel when you hit a bump in corners.. May be great for comfort, but not very inspiring handling when spriting through the twisties.
The OEM rear shock feels like a pogo stick, wishy-washy feel when you hit a bump in corners.. May be great for comfort, but not very inspiring handling when spriting through the twisties.
1983 GL650 SilverWing Interstate
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Yeah, but a real bike has somewhere to carry a few tools, a rainsuit and your lunch. If it doesn't its just a poodle bike
And the big deal is that, some correct spec size tires (apparently even the original tires) won't fit between the final drive and the swingarm unless you let the air out of them and some not even then. Same for GoldWings too.
The shock was made to be rebuilt. Honda no longer carries the parts but if your seals are OK you can probably get away with just disassembling, cleaning and re-filling with the correct amount of fluid. Its in the FSM but you may find this easier to understand http://cxgl.wikispaces.com/Rear+Suspension+System (bottom of page). The procedure is identical for the CX650E shock and AFAIK for the GL650 shock too.
There are shocks for other bikes that can be adapted but you will have to go to cx500forum.com and ask (or better yet search first)
BTW: While you have it apart you should consider adding zerk fittings to the Pro-Link so that you can grease it without disassembling it http://cxgl.wikispaces.com/ProLink (see my comments about getting the grease to the bolts)
And the big deal is that, some correct spec size tires (apparently even the original tires) won't fit between the final drive and the swingarm unless you let the air out of them and some not even then. Same for GoldWings too.
The shock was made to be rebuilt. Honda no longer carries the parts but if your seals are OK you can probably get away with just disassembling, cleaning and re-filling with the correct amount of fluid. Its in the FSM but you may find this easier to understand http://cxgl.wikispaces.com/Rear+Suspension+System (bottom of page). The procedure is identical for the CX650E shock and AFAIK for the GL650 shock too.
There are shocks for other bikes that can be adapted but you will have to go to cx500forum.com and ask (or better yet search first)
BTW: While you have it apart you should consider adding zerk fittings to the Pro-Link so that you can grease it without disassembling it http://cxgl.wikispaces.com/ProLink (see my comments about getting the grease to the bolts)
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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