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Re: Todd's "Hoping For a Quickie" refresh...

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action1 Welcome back, anim-cheers1
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Sunday, March 4. Work Day Nine:

Seeing as I couldn't continue on the carbs, the brake components became the next victims. Here's my little setup to pump out the pistons...
Quickie 030312 011.jpg
The master cyl. is mounted on a broom handle held in a vise. Then just a quick bleed until the piston starts to move... I keep a little bottle of "collected" brake fluid just for this purpose. Just need to keep the level in the cup up until the piston pops out, then on to the next...

Here's a couple of the calipers before I got started...
Quickie 030312 007.jpg
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And one of the pistons...
Quickie 030312 009.jpg
Lots of crusty crud, but there is very little pitting on any of the pistons. The outside rubber covers are whole, but weather checked/cracked in the folds. May or may not be saveable. I'll be digging into the calipers later in the week, cleaning and checking out the rubber rings inside. I also have yet to get into the master cylinders, but I might be having to go whole hog on kits, rather than risk poor performance/failure...

Tuesday, March 6 is the next day at the shop, when I hope to get started on the gas tank clean-up and de-rusting the frame...

Thanks for following along! dancr anim-cheers1 action1

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Re: Todd's "Hoping For a Quickie" refresh...

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't reuse pistons that are a little pitted, and the o-rings can't be in good shape. I would go with your last comment, "I might be having to go whole hog on kits, rather than risk poor performance/failure..." I think that is wise advice.
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You sure are making good progress Todd, I agree with Marc on the brakes as there is no room for margin in braking in my book. Love seeing you moving the bar so fast.
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Thanks for the advice, guys. The pitting looks to be above the line where the seal would ride in the caliper. At least at this point, I'm holding on to that hope! Pretty sure I'll be getting the kits though.

At some point this week, I've got to sit down and make a list of all the stuff I need, and do a price projection. That will begin to tell me where I can go, and how long this will take as funds will begin to limit what I can accomplish. Right now, I feel like I'm jumping around from one thing to the next, with little rhyme or reason, just to see what the bike needs.

Trying to decide if I want to take the time and drill the rotors. I've read that it really improves the wet braking on these bikes. I need to review a couple of threads about that, too.

Planshave changed for tomorrow, (Tuesday) as the Wifey's car lost the muffler this afternoon... Oh well, it needs an oil change too, so it'll keep me out of mischief for a while...

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'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

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'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
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Basically drilled rotors don't "improve" wet braking, they"create" it! ;)
I wouldn't think pitting on the pistons would be much of a problem unless it's really bad.pitting in the bores is another story!
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brakes are overrated.... who needs them anyway.... LOL
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Thursday, March 8. Work Day 10:

Thursday was dedicated to a chemical treatment of the gas tank. I used the muriatic acid process Placerville outlined in one of his early posts. Unfortunately, I didn't print it out, and was a little mixed up on the process, so I didn't completely finish it. I also had issues with the reserve pick-up line being plugged, which took up quite a bit more time than I wanted. I'm going to have to revisit this on Saturday due to some flash rust issues.

Also, I couldn't believe that the acid didn't take care of the goo covering the screen of the reserve pick-up, and some bits stuck in the bottom seam. I was stymied by this, figuring that if the acid didn't take care of it what would? My FIL looked at it and said, "Just spray it with carb cleaner!" which is exactly what I did. And, it worked! Whatever the residual crap was, it covered up more rust, so back I go with what I hope is a less intense but more proper cleaning on Saturday.

Here's a couple of pics of the pick-up screen. BTW, this was after two hours...
Quickie 030812 001.jpg
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Quickie 030812 003.jpg
The screen was coated even more thickly than in the pics. I had already gotten a little breakup of the coating after finally getting a small piece of bicycle brake cable through the line from the petcock end and blasting air through the line. I will definitely need to go back in there...

And some pesky flash rust (?) that popped up while I was messing around trying to get the pick-up line unplugged:
Quickie 030812 004.jpg
I'm now trying to work up a list of all the known parts needed so I have some idea of my nest expenditures...

Thanks for following,
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'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
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'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

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'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
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to get my gas lines clear, I first tried shooving a speedo cable down (didn't work) finally did several times of actually putting the acid down the holes where the petcock does.... finally it cleared up.

just be careful not to breathe the fumes of the acid
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Well, after being sidetracked for a while because of having to do some "real" work, and then my being nearly derailed all together by the flu, Quickie goes back onto the operating table today! Wee Haw! Got most of the parts needed to get the engine running and the forks redone, worked through most of the brake stuff here and there while I was ill. Now to paint the gas tank, clean up the frame, and get stuff going back together!!!

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Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
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Great to see you back at it.
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Respites are okay when of a Quickie nature like yours. So glad to see you back in operation.
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No pictures at the moment, but Thursday saw the shop cleaned up (again) and the bike back on the lift. I started trying to knock stuff off my list, and did a bit more clean-up on the frame, pulled the oil screen and picked off a bunch of little scabs of silicone goop that (I'm assuming) had made it's way into the crankcase from the heads. Also cleaned up the gasket surfaces for the valve covers, and ended up with a nice little pile of silicone. I hate that stuff!!

Saturday saw some real progress. I unpacked all my parts orders and laid them out: Cascade Cycle's http://cascadecycle.com/ "New2U" kit, which includes 2 new Gates timing belts, thermostat, radiator cap, 4 NGK plugs, Gates radiator hose, thermostat housing o-ring, and lower water pump/radiator hose o-ring. Great price, super prompt shipping (ordered Monday morning, got it in the mail on Wednesday!), and great quality parts! Got new valve cover gaskets, cover bolt gaskets, and exhaust donuts from http://www.siriusconinc.com/index.php . By far the best prices for these that I could find, but shipping was sssslllllloooooowwwwwww... Last, I ordered some genie Honda knick knacks from my local Honda dealer, which I can do online, and pick up in the store with no shipping charge. Now if they would just process the order a bit faster...

Anyway, by the end of Saturday, Quickie was wearing new timing belts, had her valves adjusted, valve covers on, new plugs in, and was begging for carbs. Not just yet, Dearie, not just yet...

Todd
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
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I love the smell of new parts in the morning. :-)
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Wow. I just hate to think I had to go back seven pages to find this thread. Good news is that I'm resurrecting it! Quick update on the Quickie project! Right now the bike is in a storage unit a couple of miles from my house. I had been working on it in my FIL's shop. Unfortunately, due to health reasons, he lost his shop, and I had to help him sell, find a home for, dispose of, or move twenty plus years of accumulated junk (and my cycle stuff) in less than three weeks. That took care of the month of June, and I've spent much of my free time since trying to help him whittle away at three storage units full of crap, as well as making his '57 Ford Retractable somewhat presentable to sell.

I finally got one storage unit cleaned out enough to set up the lift, and get back at the bike! action1 The sticking point up until now was the gas tank, and yesterday, I finally got everything together enough to do Placerville's acid soak, followed by a nice lining of Red-Kote. While that cures, I plan to finish touching up some surface rust on the frame, and get the carbs installed by the weekend.

Overall, the plan for Quickie is to get her in rolling form, even though she won't be road ready. I want to get her running at least, this fall. Right now, I can afford to either go through the brake system (new lines, kits, and pads), or new tires, but not both. The existing tires at least hold air, so they will stay through the winter, as I squirrel away more cash. So, now I'm back searching for the best price/quality on stainless lines, as well as brake kits, etc...

I'm feeling pretty good about this project again, and happy to be back wrenchin,' and playing on NGW!

Todd
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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