Stripping an 83 Aspencade

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Stripping an 83 Aspencade

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I have gotten the bug and wish to strip down a goldwing. I presently own an 83 aspencade which is in quite good condition. My main ride is a 99 Valkyrie CT so don't have to rely on this bike during the build to enjoy the "hopefully coming warm weather" I have been advised by friends to sell the 83 and look for an easier bike to convert such as any Wing prior to the 83 aspencade. I see the reasons but am also thinking that the bike I have has no known mechanical issues, runs good, exhaust system VG etc.and I might have a problem securing a bike of the same quality. Have done all kinds of searches but cannot find any info on stripping an 83 Aspencade. I can see several problems such as removal of the digital set-up for tach/speedo, switching for the compressor etc. Have access to speedo/tach from an 82 aspencade and wonder if they can be swapped over. Also wondering if anyone on this forum has had actual experience srtripping an 83 or knowledge pertaining to same and can offer any advice., Thanx for any help you can give.
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Re: Stripping an 83 Aspencade

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You need a speedo drive from an earlier wing and a mechanical fuel pump with the tach drive. Bolt on stuff. Oh, and, of course, the speedo and tach.

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IIRC, the '83 also has a slightly different setup for the neutral light/overdrive indicator, which you will have to figure out. If you are going to lose the air ride compressor, you can just swap out the manual fill lines from an earlier model, as well.
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Thanx Hakmut and Track certainly things to consider. Don't know what all is available still but a friend has an 82 aspencade parts bike, probably still has the manual air fill lines anyway as his stripped bike is an 82 standard. Anybody else care to offer suggestions?
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1999 Valkyrie CT 1500 goes by the moniker "Valerie"
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Just go for it! These are sweet bikes to ride.
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.
Do your work with your whole heart and you will succeed! There is so little competition.
Come to kindly terms with your ass, for IT bears YOU!

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Have dibs on a speedometer/tach (with idiot lights etc.) setup from an 82 aspencade along with the tach drive fuel pump set-up from the previously mentioned friends parts bike. Wondering about the need for the speedo drive from an earlier wing as the one on the 83 appears capable of accepting the cable once the digital adapter is removed. Also in checking parts #'s it appears that the 83 standard/interstate and aspencade all have the same parts # for the speedo drive? I assume the standard 83 had the older style tach/speedo setup. Anyway so far it looks like I am going to try make a standard out of my aspy. Probably ditch the compressor and go with manual fill setup
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1999 Valkyrie CT 1500 goes by the moniker "Valerie"
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It will fit. And actually work! I am all about swapping parts from one year or another. IMHO, after you remove as much weight as you can, the air ride might not be necessary. I put spring spacers in my '81 gl1100 front forks and have no air ride assist. I also went with swap meet rear shocks that lowered the bike maybe an inch. They might have been HD takeoffs. Looked brand new. Some shocks might need to be narrowed at the mounting points. Grinder action needed.
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Do your work with your whole heart and you will succeed! There is so little competition.
Come to kindly terms with your ass, for IT bears YOU!

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Good to hear HukMut. Assume you are referring to the speedo drive currently on the 83. Currently shopping for parts as I forgot about rear turn signals, which go away with my bags, front turn signals, headlight bucket, ears & so on. Will try post some pics as I proceed.
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1999 Valkyrie CT 1500 goes by the moniker "Valerie"
1978 Gl1000 "Loki" new project going to be a Cafe Convertible
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There is no real problem working with the 83 plus they have the nicest wheels! A lot depends on how close to a stock configuration you intend to keep the bike (i.e. a "Standard" model or your own version of custom). If custom, then you will be using a lot of aftermarket pieces anyway so trading parts from an earlier model may not be necessary.
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Hello Easter the plan is to make this one as much like a stock Standard as possible for the time being. Hoping to not have to add many aftermarket pieces and would replace even those when they were tracked down. I already know the ears and headlight bucket are like hens teeth. Maybe take it a step further in another incarnation but likely buy something like a 79 Gl1000 to do a more customized look. Had a brand new 79 back in the day and they have a sentimental attachment.
So far have got the fairing off the 83 (yesterday) and really like the look so far. couldn't believe how heavy the fairing etc was. Now contemplating all the wires that were hidden behind "the 3 lb weight" and how to go about removing the digital instrument cluster so as to not damage anything that is needed.
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1999 Valkyrie CT 1500 goes by the moniker "Valerie"
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1999 Valkyrie CT 1500 goes by the moniker "Valerie"
1978 Gl1000 "Loki" new project going to be a Cafe Convertible
1979 Suzuki GS850. Sold
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Jonesz wrote:Hello Easter the plan is to make this one as much like a stock Standard as possible for the time being. Hoping to not have to add many aftermarket pieces and would replace even those when they were tracked down. I already know the ears and headlight bucket are like hens teeth. Maybe take it a step further in another incarnation but likely buy something like a 79 Gl1000 to do a more customized look. Had a brand new 79 back in the day and they have a sentimental attachment.
So far have got the fairing off the 83 (yesterday) and really like the look so far. couldn't believe how heavy the fairing etc was. Now contemplating all the wires that were hidden behind "the 3 lb weight" and how to go about removing the digital instrument cluster so as to not damage anything that is needed.
That ball of wires can look pretty intimidating, but it's not that bad once you start digging into it...I built a completely custom headlight and turn signals on my '82, so I had to deal with the same thing. I ended up cutting out the "umbilical" that goes to the fairing, and shortening everything up...it ends up being a fairly compact ball when you're done. Agree with Easter...the '83 wheels are really nice ;).
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Re: Stripping an 83 Aspencade

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toolbox wrote:
Jonesz wrote:Hello Easter the plan is to make this one as much like a stock Standard as possible for the time being. Hoping to not have to add many aftermarket pieces and would replace even those when they were tracked down. I already know the ears and headlight bucket are like hens teeth. Maybe take it a step further in another incarnation but likely buy something like a 79 Gl1000 to do a more customized look. Had a brand new 79 back in the day and they have a sentimental attachment.
So far have got the fairing off the 83 (yesterday) and really like the look so far. couldn't believe how heavy the fairing etc was. Now contemplating all the wires that were hidden behind "the 3 lb weight" and how to go about removing the digital instrument cluster so as to not damage anything that is needed.
That ball of wires can look pretty intimidating, but it's not that bad once you start digging into it...I built a completely custom headlight and turn signals on my '82, so I had to deal with the same thing. I ended up cutting out the "umbilical" that goes to the fairing, and shortening everything up...it ends up being a fairly compact ball when you're done. Agree with Easter...the '83 wheels are really nice ;).
If you're going with all stock headlight and directionals, as well as stock non-Aspy gauges, you don't have to cut any wires. The fairing wiring and gauges are sub- harnesses that all plug into the main harness, which is shared by all models. It can be time consuming, but trace and mark each plug and wire, and it will be a lot easier in the long run. Been there, done that, lol! My 2 cents...
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"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Thanx Toolbox and Track T. No progress today but tomorrow my mechanic guru is coming back and we will start into the wiring harness. Talked about it today and were interrupted by an old geezer biker friend. It was more fun listening to him than getting things done. Will try to be more vigilant tomorrow!
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1983 GL1100 Aspencade named "Freki" currently undergoing change to a standard. Sold
1999 Valkyrie CT 1500 goes by the moniker "Valerie"
1978 Gl1000 "Loki" new project going to be a Cafe Convertible
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You really need to purchase a shop manual. It will have the wiring diagrams and it will also answer your questions as well as show you where things are "supposed" to go.
I have 2 copies of the Clymer, M340. Service, repair, maintenance. Covers GL1000, GL1100. The older manual has color wiring diagrams, but I think that those diagrams can be downloaded from the forum. Some might suggest a different manual. This forum will be a great source of info. If you can't find the answer to your questions in the archives, just ask.
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.
Do your work with your whole heart and you will succeed! There is so little competition.
Come to kindly terms with your ass, for IT bears YOU!

1999 Valkyrie built from parts. One owner. :crosso
1981 gl1100 naked, Cosicud. :orange Sold!
1981 gl1100 naked. New project. :-D
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