Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
Umm, where did that come from?Chainman wrote:Dang
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
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'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
In your first post in this thread you said you were a novice mechanic. You have made a lot of progress and some of us other novice mechanics are learning stuff as you work through things. Great work keep it up.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
Concrete anchor?Chainman wrote:Dang
"Love 'em all.... let God sort 'em out!"
Ex 2006 GL1800 - the Black Pearl SOLD! to make room for:
2021 Can-Am Spyder RT Limited Dark Chalk Metallic
1975 Red GL1000 project - ex Pistol Pete project
1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
Ex 1978 GL1000
Ex 1979 GL1000
Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
Ex '73 RD250
Ex '68 TR6C - chopped
Ex 2006 GL1800 - the Black Pearl SOLD! to make room for:
2021 Can-Am Spyder RT Limited Dark Chalk Metallic
1975 Red GL1000 project - ex Pistol Pete project
1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
Ex 1978 GL1000
Ex 1979 GL1000
Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
Ex '73 RD250
Ex '68 TR6C - chopped
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
Looking closer, it looks like the end has just the remainder of threads... a transmission cover/lower radiator hose housing bolt?
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
I continue to gain experience. Like, I now know how much force it takes to shear a cam holder bolt.
I knew something was off when all the other bolts required the same amount of turns to attain torque spec but the wrench just wouldn't click on that one. I kept going back trying to get that "click". Rookie mistake. I did manage to remove the bolt with a brand new set of left handed drill bits; backed right out.
Thanks to all who share here.
I knew something was off when all the other bolts required the same amount of turns to attain torque spec but the wrench just wouldn't click on that one. I kept going back trying to get that "click". Rookie mistake. I did manage to remove the bolt with a brand new set of left handed drill bits; backed right out.
Thanks to all who share here.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
If you are using a Harbor Freight click-type torque wrench, make sure you aren't going 5 ft lbs over. When the adjustment handle first hits the spring, that is 5 ft lbs already.
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Ex 2006 GL1800 - the Black Pearl SOLD! to make room for:
2021 Can-Am Spyder RT Limited Dark Chalk Metallic
1975 Red GL1000 project - ex Pistol Pete project
1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
Ex 1978 GL1000
Ex 1979 GL1000
Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
Ex '73 RD250
Ex '68 TR6C - chopped
Ex 2006 GL1800 - the Black Pearl SOLD! to make room for:
2021 Can-Am Spyder RT Limited Dark Chalk Metallic
1975 Red GL1000 project - ex Pistol Pete project
1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
Ex 1978 GL1000
Ex 1979 GL1000
Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
Ex '73 RD250
Ex '68 TR6C - chopped
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
Good to know, thanks.pidjones wrote:If you are using a Harbor Freight click-type torque wrench, make sure you aren't going 5 ft lbs over. When the adjustment handle first hits the spring, that is 5 ft lbs already.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
I had one like that off the rear case of my 1200 and another for the main thermostat housing on my Ltd.
a real pain to try to now drill out
a real pain to try to now drill out
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
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76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
Here is the current status of Donna:
The whole time I've been tinkering around I've been thinking maybe I can get away with not painting anything. But after seeing her with her covers on I know I've got to take the time to paint and polish. Everything behind the rear cover has been cleaned and inspected and ready to go back in after I paint the rear cover.
I'm hesitant to remove the front cover; too many JIS screws. The water pump impeller has just a little free play rotationally.
I've got a few questions:
Would it be foolish to Not remove the front cover and I guess replace the pump?
I'd like to rattle can some Duplicolor engine paint, can that go right over the cleaned existing paint?
And for polishing, do you think a 6" bench buffer (HF) is sufficient?
As always, grateful for any reply.
Sure doesn't look like the other pictures I see on NGW The whole time I've been tinkering around I've been thinking maybe I can get away with not painting anything. But after seeing her with her covers on I know I've got to take the time to paint and polish. Everything behind the rear cover has been cleaned and inspected and ready to go back in after I paint the rear cover.
I'm hesitant to remove the front cover; too many JIS screws. The water pump impeller has just a little free play rotationally.
I've got a few questions:
Would it be foolish to Not remove the front cover and I guess replace the pump?
I'd like to rattle can some Duplicolor engine paint, can that go right over the cleaned existing paint?
And for polishing, do you think a 6" bench buffer (HF) is sufficient?
As always, grateful for any reply.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
Just my opinion, but it's much easier to get those JIS screws out when the engine is out of the frame... For what it's worth, every Wing I've owned or worked on (eight or nine?) either had a new water pump installed previously, or done by me. You can buy a rebuild kit for about $30 and save some money. I've just rebuilt two, and it's fairly easy. Neither bike has hit the road yet, so no long term review, but others here have done it.
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
Thanks for that; just the nudge I needed. And it seems the most challenging gasket lays before me.Track T 2411 wrote:Just my opinion, but it's much easier to get those JIS screws out when the engine is out of the frame...
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
May make sense to get new screws for the front cover from Robin, they are high quality and will make getting them off easier if it every has to happen again.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
It is just so much easier to get at those front screws with the engine on the bench. With the engine in the bike there is a frame cross member partially blocking access to some of them making it almost impossible to get a screwdriver straight on. The bolt kit from Robin is the way to go for future work.
That water pump is one of the weak spots of all GL engines. If you go to the wingovations site old fogey has excellent tutorials there explaining the ins and outs of those water pumps. There is a little more to them than you may think. He also explains how to refurbish them. He sells the repair kits too.
That water pump is one of the weak spots of all GL engines. If you go to the wingovations site old fogey has excellent tutorials there explaining the ins and outs of those water pumps. There is a little more to them than you may think. He also explains how to refurbish them. He sells the repair kits too.
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Re: Waking Donna; a '75 GL1000
Thanks. I want to replace all the JIS screws possible.Fred Camper wrote:May make sense to get new screws for the front cover from Robin, they are high quality and will make getting them off easier if it every has to happen again.
Because the only JIS screws I remember, are the ones I've mangled.
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