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Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:46 am
by pidjones
All that was accomplished yesterday was removing the latch pegs and sanding the side covers. They are different colors, and had different stripes. One had decals that sanded off, the other vinyl stripes cleared over that required a razor blade to remove. Luckily, the residue sanded off Okay. Hopefully will have low humidity today so they can be primed. Only one sidecover had a badge on it, and I don't have a spare that I remember, but I do have new shelter HONDA badges for it. Thinking a two-tone black and gold with 4:1 for the main and 2:1 for the accent (black-to-gold mixture). I did the 4:1 on Hunley's frame and it is very subtle.

Maybe I can get the shelter sides sanded today, then the little hinge cover. Has to be painting weather for the hinge cover as I've experience rapid flash-rust on them, so will need etching primer quick.

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:32 pm
by PDub
I met some folks who had renovated a beautiful property/compound on the Chesapeake Bay in Maryland for a non-profit foundation. They told me the place had originally been built by the guy that invented naugahyde, who must have made a lot of money.

At any rate, they said the place had been completely "wallpapered" with the stuff and they went on and on about what a pain it was to remove.

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:26 pm
by pidjones
Usually mounted on solid surfaces (like walls and the shelter door) with rubber cement. It does NOT want to let go. Gasoline works I think, but not to be used in my garage (or striping walls). Durn critters have tough hides, I'll give 'em that.

So far, the side covers are sanded and primed with etching primer as is the little plate over the shelter door hinge. Also the radiator scoops. Shelter sides had been primed with I think a sanding primer and painted with a thin layer of flat black. Makes it pretty easy to see all of the pock marks in them, which are very many. I've skimmed the worst one with Bondo glaze several times already and it works in small cracks and divots, but comes off from shallow depressions when I sand, so I'll try sanding primer. I found on the Hunley that I have to really let it cure before painting over it, and must seal it with etching primer first. Rolled Johnny 5 out again and fired it up - starter over-running clutch is still not engaging ~50% of the time, but when it does it works fine. Hopefully the MMO I added to the last oil change will do the trick. Luckily, the engine fired off pretty easy. I found that one of the idle mix adjust screws was not even started in its threads, so after screwing it in and back out to 2 turns along with setting all at 2 turns it really idles nice. Still have to balance the carbs, but I've never had problems doing that - might catch it tomorrow after tilling the garden for the wife and climbing on the roof to check antenna connections and aim. Front tire came today but I don't know if I want to go to a shop and get it mounted right now. At 67 and mild COPD, it may not be the best thing to do. Guess I could arrange to drop it off outside their door and pick it up later with payment by card or PayPal.

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:04 pm
by pidjones
Today the weather was right, I picked up the front wheel with new tire mounted. Rolled her out, put on gear, and took her for a ride out the road and back. Brought her back behind the house, lowered the idle and advanced the time some (haven't put it on the light yet). Smoothed it out a lot. Took her for a loop in the valley total of 8.7 miles today. Running better as miles pass. Brakes bedding in fairly well. Need to pull the tach and lubricate it but the speedometer seems fine (normal Honda optimistic I'm sure). The Jardines are a lot louder than I like, but I don't plan to keep it. Seemed to ride well. I had air pressure too high and will adjust before next time. I'm just used to the GL1800 radial's pressures, so I'll reset them to 28/32 from 38/36. Might get a day soon that I can put the first coat of lacquer on the tins. Once I get to clear coat, I need to find some coveralls and of course they are all gone from the stores.
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Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:16 pm
by ritalz
Looking pretty good. Check the sidewall for the recommended pressure. I try to keep mine close to 35.

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:55 pm
by pidjones
ritalz wrote:Looking pretty good. Check the sidewall for the recommended pressure. I try to keep mine close to 35.
Honda Service Manual says 28/32 for normal (up to 200 lbs) loading.

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:58 pm
by CYBORG
pidjones wrote:
ritalz wrote:Looking pretty good. Check the sidewall for the recommended pressure. I try to keep mine close to 35.
Honda Service Manual says 28/32 for normal (up to 200 lbs) loading.
I think that was for the original tires. I check the sidewall , as all tires are different. I run 40 in mine, as recommended

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:50 am
by rcmatt007
I agree with cyborg. The OEM bridgestone tires were rated for 32 lb max. Newer tires are different

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:11 pm
by pidjones
Tires just say max pressure for max load.

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:47 pm
by pidjones
My painting is either too much and get runs/sags, or too little and get orange peel like a bandit. I'd rather have the orange peel because the clear levels it (mostly). Desire was for black with a little gold (4:1) and black with more gold (3:2) as accent. Maybe too subtle? Anyway, no runs drips errors or bugs this time. Clear is supposed to be here Saturday. Of course, it looks a lot different depending on light and observation direction, but I like that.
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Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:24 pm
by sphen
i always thought sidewall was absolute max psi....mfr suggests the correct psi for the bike as engineered...?

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:37 pm
by Track T 2411
I'm liking the black/ gold mix. It will be interesting to see it with clear coat.


As far as tire pressure goes, it's another 'best oil' or 'tire' discussion, IMhO. I will say that tire design, compounds, etc. are very different now than 40 years ago. I wouldn't limit myself to those specs. Riding style, overall weight, tire brand, and tread design all play in to it. The best way I've found is to experiment...

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:02 am
by rcmatt007
sphen wrote:i always thought sidewall was absolute max psi....mfr suggests the correct psi for the bike as engineered...?
That would be true.... IF the tires available today were he same as the tires manufactured in the 1970's. However modern tires are not the same as the tires from the 70's.

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:06 am
by Rat
sphen wrote:i always thought sidewall was absolute max psi....mfr suggests the correct psi for the bike as engineered...?
Yep ....

Gord

Re: '78 - pinched another loaf - Johnny 5!

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:27 pm
by pidjones
Applied 3M VHB tape to the backs of the side emblems and trimmed around it, so they are ready to go on. Clear still due Saturday. So, weather permitting, I should get that finished up and the rest of the body panels on next week. Then I need to get some riding in on it!