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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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Congrats on BOTM!
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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Another BOTM, how exciting, looks Great!
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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Congrats!
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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Holy Cannoli, Batman!

What a nice recognition. I'm honored.

It's now time to double down on sorting out that snapped upper shock mount bit. I'm inspired!
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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anim-cheers1 congrats
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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Nice Job, deserving bike.
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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Inspired by BOTM, I set aside time this weekend to tackle the problem with the Cabernet's upper left shock mount.

I ran a test with the snapped end that was still in the nut. I drilled and tapped a hole for a test M6 screw on Friday after work. Easy peasy. Armed with that success, I forecast a straightforward couple hours of work for Saturday. Like the weatherman, my forecast was not so accurate.

I confronted several challenges, owing to hard steel about 1/4" into the mount. I'm not sure if I hardened the steel by overheating it with a bit or snapped a tiny piece of my small bit in there, but all work progress died once I hit the hard spot.

I'm not entirely convinced there's not a stud screwed into the shock mount post, as it might make sense for the post to be hardened steel. (Note photo 3 below.) But what do I know?

Late Saturday I ran out to grab the hardest bits available at my local Ace: cobalt. I snapped the first one, and the bike laughed at the second. There went Saturday.

Sunday morning, after walking the dog, I rode the Blue Phoenix out to the Depot and bought some carbide-tipped masonry bits. No more problems!

Anyone who has used a tap knows what to do, but I've never actually used one. Fun.

What I did:
  • I ground down the threads left over from the snapped end to get a nice flat end.
  • After marking center with a sharpie, I used a small punch to put a dimple in the end of the post.
  • I then started drilling with a really small bit to drill a pilot hole.
  • I nudged up bit thicknesses a little at a time, after I hit the hard steel about 1/4" in and started breaking tiny bits
  • Not wanting to get too wide before I got deep, I waited until I had carbide bits before resuming work
  • With my smallest carbide bit, I drilled in to about 1/2" (give/take)
  • Stepping up a bit size at a time - and with my regular bits, actually, I widened the hole to the 17/64" called for
  • Then I followed some basic tap rules with my new M8 1.25 tap. I used lots of Tap Magic oil, and tried to be a bit obsessive about getting out the cuttings as I slowly worked my way in - and backed out, and in, and out.
Here's the obligatory documentary evidence.
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I'm pretty happy with the repair, and I'm confident it's solid. (I owe a debt of gratitude to all of you who shared advice when I posted the problem on the tech forum. Thanks!)

It's not a pro-level repair. I didn't strip the bike, put the frame under a drill press to ensure I have a dead center hole, etc. But it worked out pretty well. This bike will be a rider, period. If it's safe, works, and looks pretty good, I'm satisfied.

And if something should fail on the fix down the road a year or twenty, whoever owns the bike will have the option of drilling and retapping for an M10 bolt without going nuts. I'm glad I didn't attempt to over-engineer a fix, especially since failure is always an option with me.

I'm missing some bolts and nuts to fully mount the grab bar, and I need to sort a few small odds and ends. But then it's off to the BMV with my bill of sale to get the Cab a shiny new license plate.
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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The Cab is officially on the road.

After some touch-and-go waiting outside the BMV and hoping to get in before the 4:30 lockdown this past Wednesday, I slipped in and walked out with a plate. Woo Hoo! And just in time for a deep soaking rain Thursday and overnight until early Friday morning. Still, I rode her to work.

The report:
  • The Cab shifts sooo much easier than the Blue Phoenix. And the motor behaves better on launch.
  • I don't like the touring saddle, and it's not going to stay on the bike any longer than it has to. I feel crowded in the cockpit, and I have the seat set all the way back. But the seat is a quibble, and I'm on the case.
  • The bike hops right up to cruising speed, to be sure, and I'm not feeling any stumbles. I guess I did ok on the carb disassembly, cleaning, and reassembly - and on the tune.
  • So far so good on the rebuilt calipers and masters. I thought one of the front calipers was dragging a bit at first because of a "squeak" when backing up in the driveway. But I didn't feel any unusual heat after 15 miles. It was probably some oxidation on a rotor, or maybe the pads got seated.
  • I'm pretty wary about the coolant, as I've seen some drip drip in the work space. I didn't find any wetness in the lot after work, and I ran my finger under the couple spots where I think the drips have been coming from. I thought I had taken care of things with new gaskets, but I've got a jaundiced eye out for now.
  • I had a bagger in mind for the build, and I even fabricated some heat shields in case the pipes created a heat situation under the bags. Now I'm not so sure I want bags with the pipes. I've come to like the bags on the Blue Phoenix, as I don't need a backpack to commute to work.
Also, I ended up swapping in the '83 speedo, which immediately put 25k on the odometer ;-).
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I was giving a buddy at work a little "tour" of the bike on Friday afternoon, and I explained about the 85mph vs 150mph speedo swap. I said it was not about going 150. He had a suggestion: Why not have a dial that goes to 11, as with Nigel Tufnel's amps in This is Spinaltap.

I do miss not having the '83's purple overdrive light on the tach. I don't know if I could swap in an '83 neutral switch and tach down the road, but I'd like to give it a shot if I'm ever pulling the water pump. I don't mind not having the "low air pressure" warning light as the tradeoff.
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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I'm about a gallon into tank #3 on the Cabernet. Tank 1 was really the re-fill after I de-rusted the tank and reinstalled it, so it doesn't exactly count. Lots of time on the center stand running - carb sync, testing pipes, running oil through, draining, refilling, etc. Tank 2 was the MPG test, and I'm pleased to report a good 42.X MPG with mixed driving between 40 and, umm, a good bit over the legal limit.

I'm still dealing with a small, intermittent coolant leak from either the outer o-ring or the gasket mating the elbow to the head for 1 & 3 - or both. It's tough to tell for certain. There's blue discoloration on the bit of gasket peeking out from between mated parts, and I sometimes can get a blue residue on my finger if I wipe under the o-ring area. I have some bluish residue (and sometimes a small, half-teaspoon or less puddle of coolant) on top of the head.
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Frustrating, mainly because the shipping for those little bits basically doubles the cost - and I've bought several of them now in an effort to fix the issue. (Yes, I've cleaned the mating surfaces very well, there's no scoring on the aluminum surfaces, etc.) The real tweaker, though, is that the original coolant leak was in the tube leading to the other head. I should have left the right side alone.

It needs to be fixed - again. But it's not spraying coolant. I'll keep an eye on the coolant level for now. If it gets worse, I'll tackle it again. If not, I'll handle it come winter.

I've been working on-and-off on a pan for a solo seat setup. It's all new to me, though I've done a little fiberglass work on my surfboards - including a pretty major rehabilitation of a '67 Dewey Weber board that I pull out of the rafters in the den and ride a few times a year.

I got back to the work today. The goal isn't cafe seat, exactly. But I'm aiming for a reasonably gentle slope/hump that transitions to the rear fender.
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Aided by a strange aftermarket king/queen/solo bag set up that came on our '83 GL1100 parts bike, I've got the foam for two solo-seat models in process. One is somewhat cafe; the other is more bobber. Not sure which way I'll end up going. Perhaps I set it up to swing either way.
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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It's now clear that the Cabernet's rear air shocks need a rebuild.

They're saggy, and I have a yellowish oil escaping when I put a pressure gauge on the valve. They mostly hold air, and I thought they'd be in good shape. They worked for the first 200 miles or so, I think. But they're not doing the job. Springs are probably shot in there, and I think they're likely low on oil. I now notice a "squeak" as well. Parts wear and 40 years is a long time.

Fortunately, I have an aftermarket set I'm going to put on, at least for now. We're using the same style shocks on the Blue Phoenix, and they're decent, at least for one-up, mostly unloaded riding. The bike is confident in the twisties, tracks nicely at highway speeds, easily supports my 200 lbs, and more. I'm not sure how they'd handle a 500 lb load, but that's not in the game plan. (They did come off an Interstate, so someone was riding them with a load.)

I don't know that I'm game for a rebuild of the original Wing air shocks. I'll keep an eye out for a deal on some quality second-hand shocks. Maybe I'll get lucky and score some inexpensive Progressives down the road.
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Re: '82 - Cabernet

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With my son home from college for the weekend, I wanted to make sure both Wings were ready for a ride. I got up early to sort out a couple issues.

Cabernet's coolant leak at the input to the right head has been getting worse. I haven't taken it to work in about a week, owing to the leak. Gaskets are again on order, but I decided to try something. I pulled one of the elbows and o-rings off our '83 parts bike to try to stop the leak. (No new gasket. Just the one that came off the parts bike.) 40 minutes later, I had a bike that runs and doesn't drip coolant onto the top of the head.

With that success, I elected to swap out the clutch cable on the Blue Phoenix and install the parts bike's cable - after a good lube. Good news: the lever on the Blue Phoenix is notably easier to pull. But Cabernet is still smoother. It could be the more extreme bend on the Phoenix, as we're running smaller bars on the bike. I'm happy.

And my son enjoyed the ride on Cabernet.
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Here's what he likes:
  • His feet don't get hooked on the older style pegs when he comes to a stop, something he doesn't like about the '83 pegs. (I think he just needs a 1000 miles in mixed conditions to get used to the '83 pegs. But that's me.)
  • Cab shifts more smoothly all around, and the clutch lever is relatively easy to pull.
  • Surprise to me, but he seems to like the more relaxed touring/cruising position.
His first comment after our ride: "Wow. That's a heavier bike than what I've been riding."
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