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Re: 1977 gl1000

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Finally got my new carbs in the mail today and got everything I thought necessary put on. Electrical panel is hooked up, radiator, carbs, coolant pipes are all hooked up. My starter magnet was pretty messed up, so I tried fixing it but from the looks of it I’ll have to replace it. I wired it up exactly to the diagram, the only thing I could think of that is missing is the start/stop switch. I was able to just Hotwire the starter and it turned the motor but my 16 gauge wire was making its own warning light very quick so I couldn’t try starting it with that. I can try again with the start/stop switch, thicker wire, and a new starter magnet but I just wanted to see if you guys have had similar issues with this kind of thing
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Re: 1977 gl1000

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Sounds like your starter relay may be seized up. It is not uncommon. Many have replaced them with aftermarket parts from a variety of applications. They all perform the same basic function.
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Re: 1977 gl1000

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So I shouldn’t have to Hotwire the start stop switch? Just replace the relay? If so I’ll order one today
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Re: 1977 gl1000

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The stop switch on a 1000 has nothing to do with the engine's ability to crank over. It kills the coils not the starter.
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I got no spark, so I gotta go through and test all the electronics. Are there any sites you guys trust for the electronics?
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I’m finally getting around to testing the electronics, but the fsm says I need a voltmeter and a service tester. Not familiar with either of those but I have a multimeter if that’ll cover both of those. Resistance readings are provided so I can go off that, but do I need these two items to properly ensure everything is working?
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the "multi" in multimeter, in most cases, means it measures eather risistence, or volts, and some other things, depending on where the dial is set, and where the probes are touching
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Obviously the multimeter can do all that, but for certain testing the fsm calls for a service tester. Is it required to find out if my electronics are good? I’m sorry for what may seem like stupid questions but My minds been going a mile a minute and I wasn’t quite thinking that multimeters are voltmeters.
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I was taking a look at my ignition coils trying to figure out how to test them with the multimeter and I found a black and white wire with male ends connecting to the two black braided wires with female ends. I have no idea if that is supposed to be like that but I unplugged it and plugged the black wires into what I think is the ballast resistor(the white brick mounted to the coils)
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Re: 1977 gl1000

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Ballast resisters do occasionally fail. They are bypassed when the starter is engaged to provide a hotter spark to get the engine to fire. Once the starter button is released they are back in the system to reduce the current draw of the coils system.
More about them here: https://www.randakksblog.com/ballast-re ... #more-1420
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Re: 1977 gl1000

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Thanks for that. I was trying to test my regulator and rectifier last night but I couldn’t find any ways to test them in the fsm. What are the resistance values for those two things. My stator tested good, my fuses are good, i just need to test the coils, the regulator, and rectifier. The fsm also only shows how to test the coils with a service tester and I was curious how I’d go about it with the multimeter and what values I need to find
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If you haven’t already seen this:

https://www.randakksblog.com/comprehens ... eshooting/

A good video on testing 3-phase regulator/rectifier:

https://youtu.be/-2jWIkhy1fo
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Re: 1977 gl1000

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Thanks for that. Really needed it. I’m at work rn so I can’t do any testing but I’ve been considering just replacing the coils, wires, points, and condenser with dynatek. I’ve heard good things about it but I want to get your opinion on it
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Tested the regulator, rectifier, and condenser. Condenser had no continuity either way. The regulator only flowed from green to black. Yellow went nowhere. On the rectifier, yellow didn’t flow to anything and I got 13k ohms resistance from red or green to yellow. Currently shopping for those three items right now
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For what it's worth.... a condenser is tested for capacitance. measured in microfarads. Your multimeter won't perform that test. You may have been testing a diode?
If you are planning to install a Dynatek Dyna S system, the condenser is eliminated.

You might be interested in 'updating' the charging system 2 external components configuration with a combined rectifier/regulator assembly. A very large number of members (including me) have utilized this newer technology component.

read this article from Old Fogey's website:
https://www.wingovations.com/regulatorrectifier

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