Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
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Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
So a buddy and I are considering swapping the stock carbs in favor of twin carbs. We have some old VTR1000 carbs laying around and we were also thinking of some VM34's or 36's.
The concern with the VTR carbs is their sensitivity to intake volume. I don't think the VM's have as much of a problem with airbox volume. The VM's are simpler in operation, but offer up almost too much tunability. Both carbs could be run off a simple twin pull throttle cable.
We're working on designing a manifold that I can "simply" print at work in Al. We don't want the Weber's because of initial cost and with me being a taller guy (~6' 3"), you run into some knee room. Not to mention the limited side shelter access.
Any thoughts??
The concern with the VTR carbs is their sensitivity to intake volume. I don't think the VM's have as much of a problem with airbox volume. The VM's are simpler in operation, but offer up almost too much tunability. Both carbs could be run off a simple twin pull throttle cable.
We're working on designing a manifold that I can "simply" print at work in Al. We don't want the Weber's because of initial cost and with me being a taller guy (~6' 3"), you run into some knee room. Not to mention the limited side shelter access.
Any thoughts??
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Re: Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
I said it above, more tuning options. I'm going to be running a 4-4 exhaust and we're going to do a little port work on the heads, so wed like to be able to tune the carbs more easily. Why not??
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Re: Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
If thats what floats your boat, I agree. Why not. Have fun
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Re: Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
So does anyone have any experience with using other carbs like this?
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Re: Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
Those VTR's are pretty big. How easy to access jets? A little over a year ago someone tried some carbs off a VMax, I think. He used separate air filters and wasn't happy with it in the long run. HOTT has a couple of two-carb downdraft builds on here somewhere.
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Re: Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
Ya, the vtr carbs are the largest honda ever made at 48mm. I wouldn't want to run individual filters, as they need a properly sized airbox to function properly. Jets shouldn't be an issue to procure or change, as they would be much more accessible in the stockish location on the GL.
This is also why I mentioned using a mikuni VM instead, as they can be had cheap and they can be highly tuned.
This is also why I mentioned using a mikuni VM instead, as they can be had cheap and they can be highly tuned.
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Re: Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
Curious to see where you get with the Mikunis. I became a fan of them from growing up riding and working on snowmobiles, the best ones all used Mikuni carbs, and they were by far the easiest to work on. So I put a little Mikuni on my 86 Yamaha TT225. Still haven't quite dialed it in, got it to fire up last fall, but was running pig rich. If you find a good combo, I'd likely swap my GL1000 over. Contemplating building a EFI setup right now, but I'm much more familiar with the Mikuni than with wiring and computers haha.
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Re: Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
zero progress on this. It was more of a feeler to see if it would be worth it or not. I'd just like the tuning options if I ever go this route, as the stock carbs don't have much aftermarket support.
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Re: Dual VTR1000 or Mikuni VM's
More modern carbs would be good, but for what you are contemplating the stock carbs would be fine. The 4into 4 will make next to no difference to the carbs and the ports are already more than big enough, in fact rather too big.
Other jets are readily available for them if you know where to look. Unless you are going drastic with head skimming, camshaft changes, custom made valves etc, the stockies would work fine.
This is not to put you off experimenting, as there is a need to be able to switch to something more available for the 1000 as the supply of good old stuff dries up.
Other jets are readily available for them if you know where to look. Unless you are going drastic with head skimming, camshaft changes, custom made valves etc, the stockies would work fine.
This is not to put you off experimenting, as there is a need to be able to switch to something more available for the 1000 as the supply of good old stuff dries up.
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