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Quick oil change businesses?

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At a large valvoline busy oil change business in California I was told by a twenty something tech that
my wifes 16 outlander needed to have almost a full quart added above the second mark on the dip stick.
I repeated back to him that “you mean you think I need an additional .9 of a quart added above the second
“Top” mark on the dipstick” he said yes, the new 4 cylinders require more oil than the manufacturers say.
And nothing I said, made any difference. He then said if you don’t allow me to put extra oil in your car then
we are not responsible for any damage. I told him to show me the dipstick, he did, it was at the top mark.
I told him to replace dipstick, close hood. He walked off in disgust with almost an extra quart in a clear milk jug, that I paid for. I’ve read since, that this is common?
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Gowing wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 7:54 pm At a large valvoline busy oil change business in California I was told by a twenty something tech that
my wifes 16 outlander needed to have almost a full quart added above the second mark on the dip stick.
I repeated back to him that “you mean you think I need an additional .9 of a quart added above the second
“Top” mark on the dipstick” he said yes, the new 4 cylinders require more oil than the manufacturers say.
And nothing I said, made any difference. He then said if you don’t allow me to put extra oil in your car then
we are not responsible for any damage. I told him to show me the dipstick, he did, it was at the top mark.
I told him to replace dipstick, close hood. He walked off in disgust with almost an extra quart in a clear milk jug, that I paid for. I’ve read since, that this is common?
another reason to chNGE YOUR OWN OIL. Or at least let a trusted friend do it....in my opinion
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"I’ve read since, that this is common?"

do you mean that it is a common "upsell" at oil change joints ?
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I have no published proof, just my experience. And a few comments I’ve read on social media.😳
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I have never heard any good experiences with those jiffy lube type places..
doesn't mean there isn't but I've heard some very crazy stories..
stripped drain plugs, drain plugs finger tight, coming loose on the road...oil filters torqued to 2000 foot pounds.. :shock:
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a lifetime ago i took my car to a k-mart (yeah, i know, but the price was incredibly low) for a lube/oil/filter. when they were done it was over-filled by a quart (hey, at least they didn't charge me for the extra quart) and the grease nipples were still completely caked with grime; untouched. changed my own oil ever since.
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I bought a brand new Honda CR-V in 2002. Took it to Valvoline for the first oil change.

A few days later it crapped out on the highway and needed three days of repairs at the dealer who said they used the wrong filter.

Then the Valvoline mgr tried to argue his way out of returning $30 based on their 100% satisfaction guarantee.

No I didn't go back ever again.
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I purchased a oil change voucher for a friend's birthday......when she opened the birthday card with the voucher inside , she looked at me and said" you hate me or something" ??? what? If I take my car to them, anything can happen with them....you know. :lol:
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I'm not a fan of them eather. But then, I can do my own :lol:
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In a hurry I took my 93 STS to Wallyworld in August for a quick oil change. Noticed a continually growing puddle under where I parked. Jacked it up to see and the filter was barely touching. They charged me for an extra quart of oil even though they post a flat rate for all cars. If I had been thinking I would have asked “If a car takes four or five quarts, do you reduce the price?”

Hope to keep doing my own.

Most fast oil change places pay the workers a commission for additional lubricants they can sell, so they greedy ones check transmission and power steering fluids for a few extra $$ per pay period. I wonder how many get over filled?
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Like the old days when the service station actually checked your oil level when they were pumping your gas …
yeah, I’m that old … in those days the scam was to put their thumb on the dipstick to prevent it from going all the way in and then show you the 'low' level on the stick so they could sell you an extra quart … for .50 cents.

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I always bring my cars and vans to the main dealer for services. I won't let them change consumables like wiper blades or tyres, I prefer to look after that myself. I also like to get the service book stamped for every service. It does not cost any more money over here to get the main dealers to do the service. For example last week I got my 2020 Skoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI serviced it cost €179.99, I know it was basically an oil and filters change, but if I went to any other place to get this done the cost would be very little different. I got my wifes Skoda serviced 6 weeks ago it cost 149.99 Over here not having a service record at main dealerships leaves you on soft ground if there is a warranty claim. I had a 2008 Opel Vivaro 2.0 CDi van which I bought new, and always got serviced at the right service interval at the main dealer. The engines in these were built by Renault and they had a problem with fuel injectors. They failed on mine in 2014 and even thought the van was 6 years old with 130,000Km it was done under warranty. All because of my service history.
Only my opinion. I do have an old 2006 Opel Movano 2.5 CDI which is also built by Renault and I do the work on this myself. I think the warranty has expired on it now. My bikes of course, I always do myself.
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