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A new Family Project

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This is a little tractor that has spent the last 20 years sitting idle. It arrived on the family farm almost 50 years ago.
My brothers and I talked many times about fixing it up, so now my 17 year old nephew has taken an interest we all decided to tackle the job in earnest. It has not been started in at least 20 years, so after dragging it out of the old barn we had a go at starting it.

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Sweet!
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What breed is she Liam?
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5speed wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:04 pm What breed is she Liam?
A 1964 Massey Ferguson 35X, built in Coventry, England. It has a 3 cylinder British built Perkins A3 152 Diesel engine.
For those of with insomnia issues, Perkins diesel engine numbers indicate the number of cylinders (3) and the displacement in Cubic Inches (152).
This girl arrived at my homeplace in 1971 it was then 7 years old. I was 10.
A very basic design, with 6 forward and 2 reverse speeds, no power steering. The hour meter has been stopped at 7063 hours as long as I remember, I spent many an hour, day and week on this in the summertimes of my youth. Little tractors like this fell out of favour with farmers sometime in the late 70s as they were too small as things became more mechanised. It develops something around 45 HP, but 5 gallons of diesel fuel would keep it running for a week.
We wanted to start it up to see what needed to be done, but mechanically everything works. Tinwork is shot, electrics are pretty much non existent, but the parts are readily available.
The design dates back to 1955 but they still make them and sell them in Africa.
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very cool. I learned to drive (well steer and use the brakes) on my grandfathers allis chalmers model c..
I have a good idea where it is now..looking for it is on my list for this summer.
I own a distant smaller cousin of yours. A Massey 1705. 3 cylinder diesel. It puts out a stump pulling 22 hp. :mrgreen:
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That should be fun. I have an old Ford 8n that was my daughters first driving experience. Needs a good rebuild now but still can get the job done.
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I learned to drive on an 8N. Liam, my Dad had the bigger brother to your 35 a Massey 65. He used it as his utility tractor as the main tractors were Oliver Row Crops. But he liked it to pull the 4 row corn planter, not sure why. The one in the picture is pretty much a dead ringer for the one we had, plows and all.
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Liam, have farms in Ireland gone the way of farming in the US in that small farmers have been pushed out in favor of larger concentrated operations?
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I am a backhoe operator by trade although I ended up in a supervisory role.
I ran Massey Ferguson backhoes in the early 70's and those Perkins diesels were indestructible.
Same tractor but with a loader and a digger attached and painted yellow.
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Dad's 2N turns 75 this year. Working on it a few days a year I have most everything running well. Biggest issue right now is a pesky fuel leak at the sediment bowl. Cheap replacements leak out of the box.very frustrating.
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Sagebrush wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:27 pm I learned to drive on an 8N. Liam, my Dad had the bigger brother to your 35 a Massey 65. He used it as his utility tractor as the main tractors were Oliver Row Crops. But he liked it to pull the 4 row corn planter, not sure why. The one in the picture is pretty much a dead ringer for the one we had, plows and all.


Liam, have farms in Ireland gone the way of farming in the US in that small farmers have been pushed out in favor of larger concentrated operations?
A neighbour of ours had a 65 years ago, maybe they still have it.
The majority of farms in Ireland are still small, family owned units. Because in the British Colonial past the indigenous Irish people were not allowed to own land or property, there existed from the foundation of the state a strong desire to own your land or house. That still carries on to this day. Land therefore, when it comes onto the market, sells for an amount of money that the land output in itself cannot pay for. For example Leinster (Eastern) per acre land values among the highest at €11,115 followed by Munster (Southern) at €9,784 and Connaught/Ulster (West and North) at €6,619. Still at those prices you have farmers willing to buy the land, how they justify it I do not know.
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Lets see, €11,115 converts to $13,471.38 so my Dad's farm at 120 acres would be worth $1,616,565.60 just for the land! You're right at that rate there is no way on earth that acreage would pay for itself by farming. People in Ireland that pay that to farm it must do it for the life style and not to try to make a living from it. If you had to borrow money in order to purchase the land the carrying costs would bury you in the first few years. Not to mention the cost of the equipment needed and the operational expenses on top of that. It was economics like that that kept me from following my Dad's footsteps and going into farming when I was coming up in the early '70s.
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Well, Dean, there you go. Makes no sense whatsoever. A lot of farming depends on EU subsidies. Don't get me started on where all that is just wrong.
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I know this of little interest to most on here, but there has been a bit of progress made with this project in the past while.
We set about dismantling some sections that need attention, one of them being the braking system.
There was a lot of stuff to be removed out of the way to provide access. One small hurdle to overcome was getting tooled up. This tractor was built in 1964 and was originally designed in the 1950s based on a machine designed in the 1040s. All the bolts are Imperial or what you call standard in USA. I have not seen imperial sockets or spanners in years, everything I have is metric.
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A lot of the parts are in bad shape with extensive rusting on sheet metal parts in particular. Almost every part of this tractor can be bought new, as they still make them in India to the original designs. The parts are not very expensive in relative terms. This whole thing of tractor refurbishment is very popular over here, so there are plenty of sources.
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An example of a part that needed to be replaced was this front axle beam. It is a forged component with a machined bushed hole to take the swivel mounting pin.
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