Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
Oh man, talk about a tease. I’m hoping they didn’t try to run it with the timing off.
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
....looks like those downtubes are pretty smashed.
bummer!
bummer!
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
Pull the plugs and ensure it isn’t hydrolocked. Run/Stop switch to stop.
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
A little more info:
The engine will not turn over via the stator bolt, or the crank pulley bolt. My experience with these engines is with the spark plugs removed, they can be rotated quite easily from either of those two access points. Today the cylinders got a good drink of "cylinder rebuild from a jug" (Acetone, ATF, and Kerosene). 30 years ago I may have been tempted to use a breaker bar and a 3 foot pipe but experience over time has shown other ways often yield better results.
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While that potion is working its magic, I'm gathering the ignition components. There's no wiring on the bike at all except the two short pigtails at the stator and pulse generators. There are also four "three foot spark spark plug wires" that run inside and down through the "down tubes". Upon exit, they run up in between the heads/cam pulley cover, then off to the spark plugs:
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The two coils that were in the box of electrical test outside of the ohms limit and one has a sizable crack down the side.
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The two vintage ignition modules are also in the box, and as a mock-up, those and the coils were temporarily fitted to the gusset at the gooseneck. Based on the spark plug wires routing up through the down tubes (which are in good shape in spite of what the photos look like) it seems like that's where these items were intended to go:
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Lots of excellent original work has already been done on this wing and it deserves to live. The complete and excellent running 1980 GL1100 here is my ace-in-the-hole if truly needed but as of right now, plans are to work with all the project bike's existing parts as much as possible and leave the 1980 in-tact.
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This purchase is all about "the experience" and I'm guessing this latest project bike won't be a disappointment!
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The engine will not turn over via the stator bolt, or the crank pulley bolt. My experience with these engines is with the spark plugs removed, they can be rotated quite easily from either of those two access points. Today the cylinders got a good drink of "cylinder rebuild from a jug" (Acetone, ATF, and Kerosene). 30 years ago I may have been tempted to use a breaker bar and a 3 foot pipe but experience over time has shown other ways often yield better results.
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While that potion is working its magic, I'm gathering the ignition components. There's no wiring on the bike at all except the two short pigtails at the stator and pulse generators. There are also four "three foot spark spark plug wires" that run inside and down through the "down tubes". Upon exit, they run up in between the heads/cam pulley cover, then off to the spark plugs:
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The two coils that were in the box of electrical test outside of the ohms limit and one has a sizable crack down the side.
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The two vintage ignition modules are also in the box, and as a mock-up, those and the coils were temporarily fitted to the gusset at the gooseneck. Based on the spark plug wires routing up through the down tubes (which are in good shape in spite of what the photos look like) it seems like that's where these items were intended to go:
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Lots of excellent original work has already been done on this wing and it deserves to live. The complete and excellent running 1980 GL1100 here is my ace-in-the-hole if truly needed but as of right now, plans are to work with all the project bike's existing parts as much as possible and leave the 1980 in-tact.
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This purchase is all about "the experience" and I'm guessing this latest project bike won't be a disappointment!
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~CrazyJerry~
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
Most likely someone over-tightened the U-bolts that clamped the crash bars to the frame.dontwantapickle wrote:....looks like those downtubes are pretty smashed.
bummer!
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
The downtubes (less the grinder marks) are amongst the nicer ones I've seen. What am I missing?BikeMaine wrote:Most likely someone over-tightened the U-bolts that clamped the crash bars to the frame.dontwantapickle wrote:....looks like those downtubes are pretty smashed.
bummer!
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
In the first photo in post #29, it appeared that they were dented. My mistake.CrazyJerry wrote:The downtubes (less the grinder marks) are amongst the nicer ones I've seen. What am I missing?BikeMaine wrote:Most likely someone over-tightened the U-bolts that clamped the crash bars to the frame.dontwantapickle wrote:....looks like those downtubes are pretty smashed.
bummer!
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
No problem! I thought maybe I had overlooked something - which wouldn't be the first (or last time)!BikeMaine wrote:In the first photo in post #29, it appeared that they were dented. My mistake.CrazyJerry wrote:The downtubes (less the grinder marks) are amongst the nicer ones I've seen. What am I missing?BikeMaine wrote:
Most likely someone over-tightened the U-bolts that clamped the crash bars to the frame.
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
I'm just happy for you that they aren't really dented.CrazyJerry wrote:No problem! I thought maybe I had overlooked something - which wouldn't be the first (or last time)!BikeMaine wrote:In the first photo in post #29, it appeared that they were dented. My mistake.CrazyJerry wrote:
The downtubes (less the grinder marks) are amongst the nicer ones I've seen. What am I missing?
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Onward!!
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
Thanks - I second that!!BikeMaine wrote:I'm just happy for you that they aren't really dented.CrazyJerry wrote:No problem! I thought maybe I had overlooked something - which wouldn't be the first (or last time)!BikeMaine wrote:
In the first photo in post #29, it appeared that they were dented. My mistake.
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Onward!!
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
There's hope for this GL1100 engine. After about a week now, a partial rotation of the crankshaft was possible. With a bit of grunt it may likely go all the way around but the plan is to give it another shot of ATF/Acetone/Kerosene (shaken, not stirred.)
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In the meantime, life has been found via the pulse generators. The ignition system is temporarily wired in order to test for spark... And look at that lovely crack in the coil!
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And the pulse generators located at the rear of the engine:
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And... we have ignition!
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https://youtu.be/5eqV4_0-mjQ
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It's 20 degrees above zero...
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In the meantime, life has been found via the pulse generators. The ignition system is temporarily wired in order to test for spark... And look at that lovely crack in the coil!
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And the pulse generators located at the rear of the engine:
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And... we have ignition!
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https://youtu.be/5eqV4_0-mjQ
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It's 20 degrees above zero...
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~CrazyJerry~
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
not how I would tie one down! The tie down points should be on areas not sprung, such as rear swing arm/axle and bottom of front forks. The way that is the bike will bounce under the "over straps" and I bet the sub-frame-side stand will be trashed.
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
reminds me of some of the bikes I've seen on flatbed wreckers around here, held down like it's shipping cargodontwantapickle wrote:that is certainly an interesting way to strap a bike down on a trailer.
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
I'm not an engineer, but IMHO it seems to me that Mama Honda had a reason to support the rear drive on both sides. I would be concerned about the stresses that a single sided spring mount would put on the shaft tube and the rear axle assembly. But what an interesting concept. Good luck. Maybe wait until that time when we get too old to ride comfortably on a bike like that, finish building it up and get someone younger to test ride it! Preferably someone with good insurance.
Goldwings don't accelerate, they gain inertia.
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1978 GL1000 - almost stock - needs a head replaced, parts are ready to install!
1979 GL1000 - Winter project/parts bike - custom "Busted"
1983 GL1100 Standard- raised from the dead and back to organ donor status
And the newest acquisition, 1979 XS 650F to be a sidecar tug.
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Re: Who built this one? GL custom in Oklahoma
Single sided swingarms are on other bikes today, including the Goldwing. It probably needs considerable stiffening to support it and keep the sides from flexing. I’ll bet the one Cyborg built a few years ago would take it.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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