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is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:21 pm
by pugetsoundsailer
I'm getting mixed messages, got a ebay seller saying saying his stators will only fit 85 and up.
Then others saying the 85 stator will fit the 84, what gives???
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:10 pm
by FLASH2002
Hi, the stators are all the same from what I know, 1000, 1100, 1200 are all the same.
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:17 pm
by ericheath
Some 1200's had a larger stator, the 85, maybe just the LTD, but I think 85 and up were a bit different. They had a little more juice.
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:13 am
by Old Fogey
This is 'quote'-as far as I know:
The same stator will fit all 1000,1100 and non-injected 1200
That said, the original 1000/1100s were rated at 300 watts and the 1200s were rated at 350.
The injection models had a bigger stator and rotor and were rated at 500. They also have a bigger rear engine case to accommodate it.
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:30 pm
by rcmatt007
one thing that is different is the pulsar hangs off the back end on the 84 and it is ties to the front shaft (and pully for the timing gears) 85-87. And yes the Ltd is different
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:38 pm
by jdvorchak
I'm pretty sure all the 1200s, other than the FI LTD, had the same stator. 350 or 360 watts, don't remember for sure. I looked once for Ricks Electrics stator and it showed the same part number for 1000 1100 and 1200 as I remember.
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:52 pm
by rcmatt007
if that is so, then the still available OEM stator for the 1200 should fit into a 1000??
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:19 pm
by pugetsoundsailer
rcmatt007 wrote:one thing that is different is the pulsar hangs off the back end on the 84 and it is ties to the front shaft (and pully for the timing gears) 85-87. And yes the Ltd is different
if this is the case can the 85-87 be adapted to fit the 84?
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:37 pm
by Old Fogey
The 84 was a one year only engine. The whole thing was comprehensively overhauled for the 85 on models.
Crankcase, rear case, clutch cover, etc. None of these interchangeable with the 84.
The front-of-crank ignition system pick-ups also have mounting points on the block, if I remember rightly.
So I guess the answer is no.
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:49 pm
by jdvorchak
Old Fogey is right. No way to use 85+ pulse gens on the 84
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:30 pm
by pugetsoundsailer
jdvorchak wrote:Old Fogey is right. No way to use 85+ pulse gens on the 84
yes that is correct concerning the pulse generators, my question is can the stator of a 85 be used in a 84?
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:42 pm
by John Schmidt
I have a stator out of an '84 I have no need of, pretty sure it's good. Have to check, pulled it out of an '84 engine from a Std.(swallowed a valve). Shoot me an email at
stuffy402@aol.com if interested.
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:26 am
by rcmatt007
pugetsoundsailer wrote:jdvorchak wrote:Old Fogey is right. No way to use 85+ pulse gens on the 84
yes that is correct concerning the pulse generators, my question is can the stator of a 85 be used in a 84?
I think the general feeling is yes, but no one is for sure.
What I do know is that honda had problems with the stators failing in the 84's and most of them were replaced before the 80's were even over. It is possible that a different part # reflects the changes they made after those failures.
Sort of like the part # for the drive shaft changed during the 1000 series. The later ones had a better u-joint, but they all interchange
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:21 am
by rcmatt007
When I get back out to OK, I will check as I have a new stator to put into our 1200, and I can compare it to a used 100 stator I have on the shelf. The other option is that I have a used 78 engine that needs the rear case gasket replaced, and I can pull that and see if the 1200 stator actually fits
Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:26 am
by CYBORG