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I'm looking to buy some camshaft seals. Can you guys double check my work.
I'm looking to buy 2 of numbers 15 and 2 of number 16, do I need 2 of number 16 or just 1?
I'm also going to get 4 of the head dowels number 25.
I've got a versah gasket set for my head job, can anyone think of anything else I might need that my gasket set won't have?

Someone can double check me but I believe you need 3 of the same seal. Part number for alternates locally available are in the parts cross reference forum in the first post.

I was wondering is its a different seal for the points side. I haven't gotten the points cover apart yet to look at the gasket. Those dang Philips head screws are rounded out on mine.

Not Phillips screws.

They are JIS screws.

That was the wrong pic, this one is for a gl1000

gltriker wrote:Not Phillips screws.

They are JIS screws.

My uncle had an iseta that was always broke down or he always working on it. His son always called it the ****** car.

Beetleman wrote:

gltriker wrote:Not Phillips screws.

They are JIS screws.

My uncle had an iseta that was always broke down or he always working on it. His son always called it the ****** car.

You may have misunderstood. JIS is what those screws are called. Not phillips. They take a screw driver designed for them that works much better than a phillips screwdriver. Japanese Imperial Standard I think is what JIS stands for.

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Yep they ain't kidding about the screws. Anyone that is serious about wrenching on these old Japanese bikes need the JIS Screwdrivers. They are different than Phillips and grab the Japanese screws much better

May be better deals out there but I got mine here http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/s ... e.tpl.html

They have paid for themselves many times over

robin1731 wrote:

Beetleman wrote:

gltriker wrote:Not Phillips screws.

They are JIS screws.

My uncle had an iseta that was always broke down or he always working on it. His son always called it the ****** car.

You may have misunderstood. JIS is what those screws are called. Not phillips. They take a screw driver designed for them that works much better than a phillips screwdriver. Japanese Imperial Standard I think is what JIS stands for.
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That's probably why most of my Japanese imperial standard screws are rounded out, even the timing adjustment screws.

I didn't mean/think that word would get blocked as beeing vulgar, it looks alot worse now.

robin1731 wrote:

Beetleman wrote:

gltriker wrote:Not Phillips screws.

They are JIS screws.

My uncle had an iseta that was always broke down or he always working on it. His son always called it the ****** car.

You may have misunderstood. JIS is what those screws are called. Not phillips. They take a screw driver designed for them that works much better than a phillips screwdriver. Japanese Imperial Standard I think is what JIS stands for.

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Japanese Industrial Standard

I was close.

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Yes!

The cam shaft seals are 3 of the same type for a GL1000 and you can buy the alternative Altrom seals or NAPA seals from your favorite parts shop at a lot less than Mother Honda wants. NAPA part # ATM 2117994 and Altrom #052-2755. I used the Altrom cam shaft seals and the quality is very good and equivalent to the OEM ones.

Does your Vesrah kit have the small O rings for the oil orifices (#18 and #19) in your diagram that take two different sizes and supplies oil to the cam shafts. I noticed you still had one stuck in the head you removed and showed a picture of recently.
These should definitely be refreshed as part of your rebuild of the heads.

+1 on the Vessel Tools and the JIS drivers these are a must on old bikes. The screws are almost always seized in the aluminum from the electrolysis that takes place over time from the two different metals being in contact with each other. Highly recommend using the anti seize compound when doing reassembly on all threaded components.

flyin900 wrote:The cam shaft seals are 3 of the same type for a GL1000 and you can buy the alternative Altrom seals or NAPA seals from your favorite parts shop at a lot less than Mother Honda wants. NAPA part # ATM 2117994 and Altrom #052-2755. I used the Altrom cam shaft seals and the quality is very good and equivalent to the OEM ones.

Does your Vesrah kit have the small O rings for the oil orifices (#18 and #19) in your diagram that take two different sizes and supplies oil to the cam shafts. I noticed you still had one stuck in the head you removed and showed a picture of recently.
These should definitely be refreshed as part of your rebuild of the heads.

+1 on the Vessel Tools and the JIS drivers these are a must on old bikes. The screws are almost always seized in the aluminum from the electrolysis that takes place over time from the two different metals being in contact with each other. Highly recommend using the anti seize compound when doing reassembly on all threaded components.

They gave me the orifice gaskets. I'm glad you told me about them I thought there was only one gasket per orifice.

Industrial, but invented during the Imperial era. We're all happy now. In my opinion, far superior to Philips. Philips are designed to tighten to a certain torque and then spin out. They work good tightening. Loosening, not so much.