1977 GL1000- Steering Head Bearing question

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1977 GL1000- Steering Head Bearing question

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Hello again,
I disassembled my front end today, last stage of restore, and have a head bearing question. The bike was manufactured in April 1997 and just discovered it had Japan roller bearings installed and not ball bearings. The steering had noticeable flat spots when you turned handlebars; the upper tree nut was very tight and steering stem top nut was definitely loose. Also, upper roller bearing had dried caked grease and both bottom and top races looks OK.

A Bottom Roller bearing race?...it appears that race it is not seated on bottom neck flange (see picts). Is this normal or is there a spacer I cannot see? I am not sure if this is the OEM installed bearings or a Powner changed bearings incorrectly. As always; thanks to those that have been here before :)

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This is a neck from a stock 78 with original bearings and it looks just like yours to my eyes. My Father owned this bike from new and the bearings were never changed.
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I have found that Honda did a decent job of making things that could actually be dis-assembled. There is likely a second step in the bearing bore that the cup seats against. The extra lip (the one that makes it look like the cup isn't seated) provides clearance so a bearing removal tool can be slid in behind the cup so it can be pulled.

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That doesn't look quite like my 1100, but I agree with Greg and Wiskerfish. If the cup wereany tighter, you couldn't get behind it with a puller...

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Thanks Whisker, Greg and Track...you saved me some extra work and $$$$!
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Thank you to Eric Heath for pointing me towards this article and sharing it. I was feeling just as confused with mine having the gap there as well and this is all very reassuring. Two shoulders, who would have thought?!
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gregforesi wrote:I have found that Honda did a decent job of making things that could actually be dis-assembled. There is likely a second step in the bearing bore that the cup seats against. The extra lip (the one that makes it look like the cup isn't seated) provides clearance so a bearing removal tool can be slid in behind the cup so it can be pulled.
You were right from the beginning. Thank you!
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This was mine, looks EXACTLY like that!
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