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Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #1 by Track T 2411 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:40 pm

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My stepson's girlfriend bought this bike today. 1981 CB650. Starts (with jumpers) and idles fairly well, even though the carbs look horrible. Tires are ten years old, the forks seem soft, and there's lots of cosmetic issues, but it looks pretty solid overall. I think it will be a good starter bike for her... More to come!
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'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

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'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #2 by flyin900 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:22 pm

Looks like a great project and a nice starter bike too with enough oomph to keep a new rider happy for a long time. Pretty complete too which helps the pocket book vs when too many pieces are missing from them.
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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #3 by Oldewing » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:33 am

I forgot which one, back in the day, one of the Motorcycle mag's of the time in there review said....


This is the "Chevy Nova" of motorcycles, it does everything well and no one will notice..... devil1 devil1



Looks like solid bones, great starting place, best of luck
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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #4 by Whiskerfish » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:58 am

When I was in Memphis going through Aviation Electronics training in 79 my Best friend had a 79 model. He and I would race everywhere. I had a 78 750F. I could outrun him in the straights but he was much quicker through the corners. We had great fun together. Nice bikes for sure!
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Post #5 by desertrefugee » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am

...and we survived.
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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #6 by Track T 2411 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:53 pm

Thanks for the encouraging replies! I think the bike will suit her needs for quite some time.
Of course a new battery is first on their list. I strongly urged them to put new tires as a high priority, but Josh is waffling on that 'expense.' I'm keeping a 'hands off' approach unless asked (or something goes terribly wrong...).
Any suggestions on carb kits? They are Kehin's, and look very similar to the 1100's.
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Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
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Post #7 by 77Gowing » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:40 pm

Let's see the smile on the girls face to go along with a good project.
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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #8 by flyin900 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:01 pm

Track They are possibly the VB series which are relatively easy to work on and just like most carbs the brass can be carefully cleaned and reused. A gasket/O ring kit maybe available aftermarket, or Honda will have one for sure.
Make sure you get the pilot jets and the accelerator pump circuits clean and working well and you will be fine.
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1967 CL175 Low production number with #802 as engine serial- winter 2019/2020 project.
1978 CB550K Very original bike with only 7499 klms from new- light cleanup and refresh pending.
1981 GL1100 Standard model - Sept 2018 start of cosmetic refresh, nice original condition.
1983 CB1000 Custom-Low mileage full cosmetic restoration back to factory new.
1984 GL1200 Standard model in showroom condition-two owner bike.
1984 CX650E Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model-excellent one owner bike.

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Post #9 by desertrefugee » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:11 am

Great workhorse of a motorcycle.

And I like Novas.
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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #10 by Liam » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:48 pm

That looks like a really nice project.

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Post #11 by Damferg » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:45 pm

It looks amazing, have fun and thanks for sharing!
Send more pics in the future!

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Post #12 by heraldhamster » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:48 am

awesome. always love hearing about another new rider.
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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #13 by Track T 2411 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:11 pm

A quick wash cleaned up a lot of the dust and grime, and even most of the fuel strains on the engine. There's some pitting on the wheels that probably can't be fully removed, one side cover is cracked, and the rear fender is pretty dented up. Haven't dug into the electrics yet, but I'm sure there will be a few issues.
The crankcase is over full, and smells of fuel, which isn't surprising looking at the carbs. The gas tank looks pretty rusty, so that has to be addressed as well.
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"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #14 by Track T 2411 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:36 am

Pulled and drained the gas tank, and removed a carb cap just for fun. I was surprised by how clean (relatively speaking) the slide and cap was. The slide needle had a green tinge to it, as did the gas that piddled out when I cracked open the float bowl drain screw.

The ignition is much like the 1100's, and of course the potting material in the spark units on this bike have melted just like the 1100's do. The bike didn't seem to exhibit any ignition issues during the few minutes we've had it running, so I'm hoping to clean up and fill the spark units with epoxy as others here have done.

I've joined the SOHC4 forum, and found quite a bit of info, like links to service manuals and such. I've never owned a bike with a drive chain/ sprockets for more than a few months, so all that is new to me, as well.
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Re: Another project appeared in the driveway today...

Post #15 by flyin900 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:12 am

Track if they are the VB series carbs I probably have the Oring sets for the fuel rails and the accelerator pump rails and the pilot screws. If your going to break them down completely and take them off the rack you will need these ORings. The float bowl formed gaskets are available off E bay sellers in a kit, or 4 into 1 an online seller.
I can send you them in the mail, as I have lots left from the DOHC carb sets I used to rebuild.

Send me a PM if you need them with your details.
Current Bikes:
1967 CL175 Low production number with #802 as engine serial- winter 2019/2020 project.
1978 CB550K Very original bike with only 7499 klms from new- light cleanup and refresh pending.
1981 GL1100 Standard model - Sept 2018 start of cosmetic refresh, nice original condition.
1983 CB1000 Custom-Low mileage full cosmetic restoration back to factory new.
1984 GL1200 Standard model in showroom condition-two owner bike.
1984 CX650E Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model-excellent one owner bike.


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