Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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Belts are about the cheapest thing on your build, and the most critical. Check the waterpump for side to side movement.
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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DCSparrowhawk wrote:
Upcoming To-Do:

replace belts (?)


Um... Belts look brand new?
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New belts MAY look new, but (some) old belts don't look old!

If you are in ANY doubt of the age of the belts, change them. If one breaks, chances are it's bye bye engine.

Just saying.

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Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
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1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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Message received. Without a doubt, changing belts.

I also found out that whomever changed them previously had busted the end off of one of the cover bolts. They're kind of a spear type looking bolt. One end is bust off in the block and they loc-tited the bolt outside the cover to hide it from the person I bought the bike from...

Some people I tell you... Any recommendations on how to get that sucker out? Perfectionist ME wont live with that...
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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Amazing what some po's do, but could have happened a while ago. Another reason to change the belts as you don't know who has worked on the bike over the years. On my bike, I found bolts missing, threads stripped (with a bolt still in the hole), and even gaskets not fitted!
On your belt cover bolt, is any of the shank showing? If so a pair of mole grips should get it out. If not then an easy out should. In the manual the torque for these bolts is around 9 lbs/ ft, I think, so a relatively low number. I also know that it doesn't take much more to shear them. Did it on my CX500 head cover many years ago, which made be buy a torque wrench!
A photo would help.

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Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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I'll grab a few more pictures tonight. Update - I cut a deal for a whole front end off of a GSXR. Brakes, lines, master brake cylinder, triple clamps, rim, fender, everything. Should be picking it up this weekend.

I'm aware that a company sells front fork conversion kits. But being the goof ball I am, and having some extra steel shaft laying around I'm going to attempt to cnc lathe my own steering stem, and see if I can source the angled bearings from work. If this proves too difficult, maybe It'd be worth it just to buy the package at $200+ CAD. We will see where it goes.
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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So a "bit" of an update. I'll keep it short and sweet, and include as much info as I can - as compact as possible.

In the time I haven't updated this post, I've completely disassembled the bike and marked out everything. I picked up my very own sandblaster and I've sandblasted everything in the shop... Even perfectly fine older tools are being blasted. Love the process.

Acquired 1998 GSXR 750 SRAD, took the front end. Fork seal kit on order, to be resealed, topped up and installed.
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Complete disassembly of the two bikes, taking parts I want and removing parts I dont.
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Realizing that the engine I have... Is now a parts engine. High amounts of carbon build up inside cylinder wall, broken aluminum parts, cracked camshaft timing gear... Not happy.
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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Continued...

Decided to try out making a steering stem to fit up the new front end.
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Only had an imperial measuring tape, but the neck length I worked out to 192mm. Any questions regarding measurements I will have a VERY hard time answering. It all works out in my head, but when it comes out in words its a bunch of blurb. Some sort of measurement disorder I suppose.
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The black object in the background is the source of my lack of updates. Lots of stuff going on at work. Lots of building.
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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Continued...

Well... It fits... Perfectly... Go me I suppose! Some cutting with steering stops and she should be mint. (this was the quick test fit picture just to see if I was totally off on the steering stem, so its missing a few parts haha)
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Just purchased a 1983 GL1100 Aspencade for a new engine. BIIIIIIIIIIG carb issues, but I got it for $400 CAD. Boom-shakalaka. Carbs are going to be removed and sent to pistol pete (Hopefully soon). Ordered an inline fuel pump (4 psi max) and fuel filter. Lots of little bits and parts still to be ordered and installed. I hope I can document each bit and part. I only have an hour or two a week to build this thing, so sometimes I need to make the best of my time.

The project is starting to come together. With enough money and patience it might just come out the way I am hoping. The front end conversion was VERY cheaply sourced. I would guesstimate less than $300 CAD total - excluding fork oil and seals when all said and done.

My next few updates will likely be regarding the new engine, complete stripping of existing wiring - to be replaced with a nice m.unit blue set up. Because it wouldn't be "Next Generation" without bluetooth compatibility right?
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PM sent about carb rebuilding.
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Fun at every corner - good thread here!
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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This does seem like a good build and hats off to making your own steering stem, I haven't tried, but it doesn't seem easy! Are you planning on using the GSXR rear end at all??
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codyjames707 wrote: Are you planning on using the GSXR rear end at all??
Was thinking the same thing! It would be a project for sure!
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The front end is looking great, nice fabrication job!
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codyjames707 wrote:This does seem like a good build and hats off to making your own steering stem, I haven't tried, but it doesn't seem easy! Are you planning on using the GSXR rear end at all??
Im building this mainly as a "get around" my provincial licensing laws, and to have something that is low(er) maintenance... I'll be sticking with the stock shaft drive and swingarm. I simply did not like the air ride that came with it on the front end. The rear shocks will be replaced as well to eliminate the whole system.

I can register this bike as an antique for $11 a month. Something super cheap to plate and insure, PLUS ultra reliable? And moderately speedy? Heck yeah! With these changes it should ride just like a brand new sport/cruiser bike.
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Re: Next Generation 81' GL1100i

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It has been quite a while since my last update. A lot has happened. Between moving halfway across the country and surviving a COVID epidemic, I think it's fair play to say the build has been a bit slow...

I've reassembled the bike a few times over to become familiar with the construction of it all. I've kept the best parts I had from both bikes, and sold the rest off. What you see is a mixture of this and that from every bike.

I'll summarize the progress as well as I can.

Weber 40 IDF Carbs
I've chosen to go with the dual downdraft carbs. I love the look, love the sound, and also I am happy with the simplicity of the carbs. I've had the bike "Running" with the new carbs, and I believe I've narrowed down the proper jetting for an 1100.

Handlebar + Control Changes

Hydraulic Slave Cylinder & Clutch Cover - 1984 Gl1200
I've sourced a beautifully rebuilt gl1200 hydraulic slave cylinder from Richard. Very happy with the result. Holding off on the install until the engine needs to come out.

VFR800 Hydraulic Master Cylinder Brake + Clutch
A local motorcycle parts shop had a perfect set of hydraulic controls. Picked up the duo for $100 CAD (Came with rebuild kits). They contribute significantly to the cleanliness of the controls. Thankfully they're a close piston size for both the front brake requirements as well as the rear slave cylinder requirements. A set of steel braided lines are to follow (Once everything is ready and sized, then I can find out how long of a line I'll need)

Renthal "Fatbar" 1 1/8" Bar
Sourced a nice tapered bar. I love the aggressive feel and seating position. Unfortunately, the seating position has resulted in my sasquatch knees hitting the tops of the carbs... This issue is still yet to be solved.

7" Headlight and Headlight Mounting Brackets
Sourced a nice used 7" dia headlight, and ordered a generic set of aluminum brackets. One photo showcases my state-of-the-art headlight mounting system that utilizes a hardware store rachet strap...

OEM Headers - Megaphone style "Mufflers"
These mufflers have ZERO muffling effect. The bike sounds amazing, but it cranked the dial to 20... It is WAY WAY too loud... I'll be welding in some baffles mid pipe as well as mating the mufflers to the headers. In the picture provided, it's kinda droopy... I've borrowed the OEM mounting brackets off the stock pipes and I'll be welding it to the muffler to hook right up to the OEM mounts on the frame.

Custom Top Triple clamp + Risers (CognitoMoto)
A special triple clamp that I wanted to be made a bit different. These guys are QUALITY. Highly recommended for anything they offer. Absolutely perfect.

My next big step is incorporating the OEM 83' front rim to the new front end. This will be done with two spacers, that have bolt patterns for both the goldwing and the GSXR. Instead of having through-bolts as the goldwing had from OEM, I'll be machining out the holes to accommodate an M10x1.5 - 60mm flush bolt. These bolts will thread INTO the rim as opposed to through the rim. Similar to the GSXR's method of mounting the brake disc to the hub.

I'm going to be solving a workaround to use the GSXR's front rim axle, as well as using the same size front wheel bearings and seals. My issue now that is still yet to be solved - is sizing spacers for inside the goldwing rim, so that the axle can run freely... I'm unsure if this is even necessary... Still some solving to do. Below I've attached a rendering of my spacer.

Here are some photos in order to show progress.
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Greased up and slathered in honey mustard...

2006 M109r Boulevard
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1981/83 GL1100 Goldwing Interstate (Project)
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