turning a 4 into a 6
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turning a 4 into a 6
Well i am 3 weeks or so into swapping out my Gl1200 with a Gl1500. I purchased an 85 LTD and the motor was trashed. It sat around in my garage in pieces for 2 years and now i have decided to bring her back from the dead with a couple extra cylinders. I found 6 out of a 93 gloldwing with 37k miles and had it shipped. It has a little cosmetic damage to the left valve cover, but other than that it is in great shape.
My thoughts are to loose most of the plastics and go for a more sporty naked look. I stripped her down to the bare frame and i like the lines of the frame work. I had to stretch the frame 4 inches to fit the 6. I also lowered the cradle tubes a couple inches. The new motor fits beautifully. I had to remove the right side belt cover and starter to get it in, so i could not have been any closer with my calculations.
Now that the motor is sitting in place (resting on a 4 wheel creeper that i purpose built for the task) I can start designing the new engine mounts. Everything is tack welding at this point. Now that i know the motor will fit, I can begin welding everything up. Here a few pics of the project so far. Please bare with me as this is my first photo documented project. It been tuff to remember to stop and take pics.
My thoughts are to loose most of the plastics and go for a more sporty naked look. I stripped her down to the bare frame and i like the lines of the frame work. I had to stretch the frame 4 inches to fit the 6. I also lowered the cradle tubes a couple inches. The new motor fits beautifully. I had to remove the right side belt cover and starter to get it in, so i could not have been any closer with my calculations.
Now that the motor is sitting in place (resting on a 4 wheel creeper that i purpose built for the task) I can start designing the new engine mounts. Everything is tack welding at this point. Now that i know the motor will fit, I can begin welding everything up. Here a few pics of the project so far. Please bare with me as this is my first photo documented project. It been tuff to remember to stop and take pics.
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- handysmurf
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
Once i get the engine mounts figured, the next hurdle is the universal joint. apparently the spline count changed between the 1200 and 1500.
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
In!
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
If I am not mistaken, the 1500 swing arm and associated parts can be switched to a 1200 frame without to much difficulty. Might be an option for you.
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
Thanks wingrider, I did and am still considering that option. The issue is my wheel base. It's already 2 inches longer than a stock 1500. I understand that a 1500 swing arm will add another 4 inches or so. Not sure sure about the specific deminsions yet. Still researching. Any thoughts on that?
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
Interesting!
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
I have just done a little more reading in the 1500 final drive swap. It looks like i can use my tire with the 1500 final drive and drive spacer. I read somewhere a couple weeks ago that the swing arm itself was 4 or 5 inches longer on the 1500. I can not seem to find that now. I will definitely be considering this swap. I seem to get done frequently for the beefier bearings and parts availability aspect.
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
yup, the 1200 swingarm takes a 1500 pumpkin with easy tweaks
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-g ... ssues.html
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-g ... ssues.html
Last edited by 82aspy on Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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ngw quotes - \ "I will strip the beast" \ "the swingarm is just a hunk of metal" \ "gonna maybe ...dunno yet" \ "It's never done, thats the fun." \ "something about this site brings me back"
Yoda said, "There is no try or not try; there is only do or don't do."
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ngw quotes - \ "I will strip the beast" \ "the swingarm is just a hunk of metal" \ "gonna maybe ...dunno yet" \ "It's never done, thats the fun." \ "something about this site brings me back"
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
That is great news.. Thanks. Joining you guys is already paying off. Now to start sourcing parts.
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
added link above
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/1087681-post7.html
edit - bit moreYou only have to drill out the 4 mount holes in the swing arm when using the 1500 final drive in place of the 1200 final drive, drill to 7/16" diameter
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/1087681-post7.html
"there is a Darwinian element"
Yoda said, "There is no try or not try; there is only do or don't do."
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ngw quotes - \ "I will strip the beast" \ "the swingarm is just a hunk of metal" \ "gonna maybe ...dunno yet" \ "It's never done, thats the fun." \ "something about this site brings me back"
Yoda said, "There is no try or not try; there is only do or don't do."
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ngw quotes - \ "I will strip the beast" \ "the swingarm is just a hunk of metal" \ "gonna maybe ...dunno yet" \ "It's never done, thats the fun." \ "something about this site brings me back"
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
Now this is going to be fun. This build begs for a serious swingarm mod (in addition to the swap) to allow more rubber out back...
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
Man she would be a long ship for sure then
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
the only 1500 swingarm to 1200 & 1100 frames (or info) i'm aware of,
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 06#p622997
haven't seen any details on how it was done but i do have contact info for dude who did the above
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 06#p622997
haven't seen any details on how it was done but i do have contact info for dude who did the above
"there is a Darwinian element"
Yoda said, "There is no try or not try; there is only do or don't do."
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ngw quotes - \ "I will strip the beast" \ "the swingarm is just a hunk of metal" \ "gonna maybe ...dunno yet" \ "It's never done, thats the fun." \ "something about this site brings me back"
Yoda said, "There is no try or not try; there is only do or don't do."
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ngw quotes - \ "I will strip the beast" \ "the swingarm is just a hunk of metal" \ "gonna maybe ...dunno yet" \ "It's never done, thats the fun." \ "something about this site brings me back"
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Re: turning a 4 into a 6
Don't forget to stop and take PICTURES .....
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