80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
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80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
Hi.. What is the difference on these two engines??? Can a older 1100 be used in a 83 1100???? Whitout hassle?? My engine said goodnight few days ago.. The primary chain broke and destroyed atleast one sprocket.. What is the difference in parts. Thanks
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
The 83A I think it was has overdrive. Other than that I think the only difference is the jets in the carbs are movable in the 82-83. Maybe some minor stuff but nothing to stop an engine swap.
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
Wich mens i can Use the carbs from mye 83 on a older engine???
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
The engine to secondary drive was changed on the 83 to reduce engine RPM at speed. 1st gear was made lower to compensate on take off. the result of this is the 5th gear on the 83 is now an overdrive. I think you'll find with the 81 engine you will be running about 500 rpm higher in 5th at highway speeds.
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
YesOtis76 wrote:Wich mens i can Use the carbs from mye 83 on a older engine???
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
On my 81 60mph = 4000 RPM in 5th... Then again, it's right on the cams at that speed so ready for a burst to pass without a downshift.
I read in the 20th Anniversary Goldwing book that the 80-81 were the lightest and quickest GLs made. Quickest must mean only for the 4-cylinder bikes though...
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I read in the 20th Anniversary Goldwing book that the 80-81 were the lightest and quickest GLs made. Quickest must mean only for the 4-cylinder bikes though...
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
CYBORG wrote:YesOtis76 wrote:Wich mens i can Use the carbs from mye 83 on a older engine???
Yup, no problems.
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
Is this a 1000 or a 1100??? Help!!!
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
And the clutch for 1100's.... when did the change to hydraulic actuation happen?
Also location of the neutral switch?
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Also location of the neutral switch?
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
No Hydro clutch on the 11s, all cable. Neutral switch changed to the front cover in '83 model
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
Yeah, 1200 was the first for Hydraulic clutch from Honda.
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
So it is kinda a upgrade to put a older engine in.. Since it might be more responsive gearvise??
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
It should be. Even though the 80-81 had a higher first gear, they were mated with a 17" tire. Your 83 will have a 16" tire. You'll just gain a few extra rpms in 5th gear. They should be pretty close.
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Re: 80-81 gl1100 vs 83 gl1100 engine
Ummmm, no. The 82 had the neutral switch on the front cover, single wire. Mine is a Standard. (Also came with self-canceling turn signals, which means the speedo has a two wire speed sensor added.)Old Fogey wrote:*SNIP* Neutral switch changed to the front cover in '83 model
83 (my 83 donor was an Interstate) picked up an OD indicator light in the speedo, so the neutral switch had two wires, not one.
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