1980 GL1100 engine removal / timing belts

[deathbypizza]

So I've been tearing down my goldwing. It's at the point now where it's just engine and drive shaft. Everything else is off. I figure eh might as well remove the engine to clean it and paint it. My question is in the Honda service Book it states to check a vacuum? What is it. What does it do. And do I have to? As stated everything is already removed from the bike and aside from that I'm pretty confident o can remove the engine.

Anyone know the weight of this bad boy off hand? Carbs and pluming removed so it's bare bone engine. Reason why is can 2 lads pick it up and put it in my rig to bring to Honda. As I want to replace the timing belts. But where it is important part of making the bike run I don't want to screw it up. Is replacing the timing belts really that hard? Or should I be good? I already have new belts and a new gasket for it.

[deathbypizza]

For the curious.

[ericheath]

The 1100's had vacuum controlled timing. I believe number three cylinder people I use a source to the ignition control unit on the rear right of engine. I think you can just suck on the hose ( I tried to come up with a better way to word it) and see the actuation arm move in and out. Sometimes the little canister develops a leak.

[deathbypizza]

Ah that's what the little black hose is that went into the carb. Is that what your talking about?

[gltriker]

So I've been tearing down my goldwing. It's at the point now where it's just engine and drive shaft. Everything else is off. I figure eh might as well remove the engine to clean it and paint it. My question is in the Honda service Book it states to check a vacuum? What is it. What does it do. And do I have to? As stated everything is already removed from the bike and aside from that I'm pretty confident o can remove the engine.

Anyone know the weight of this bad boy off hand? Carbs and pluming removed so it's bare bone engine. Reason why is can 2 lads pick it up and put it in my rig to bring to Honda. As I want to replace the timing belts. But where it is important part of making the bike run I don't want to frig it up. Is replacing the timing belts really that hard? Or should I be good? I already have new belts and a new gasket for it.

You will find excellent information resources in the Naked GoldWings Club Shoptalk!

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[chewy999]

The best way to remove the engine is to place a trolley jack under the engine to take the weight when the final bolts are removed. Put a bit of wood between the engine and jack to protect the aluminium. The Jack just takes the weight, it is hard to balance the engine on the jack. Then one person pulls the engine out using the jack and I had two mates helping to guide and support the engine. It is a bulky, weighty engine, but two people could lift it into a vehicle.
It isn't hard to change the belts so long as you follow the manual or the advice in shop talk. A good tip if you're not sure, is to loosen off all the valves first so the pistons can't hit the valves.

[chewy999]

Ah that's what the little black hose is that went into the carb. Is that what your talking about?

I believe it is. If you follow the hose away from the carb to the rear of the engine, you find it reaches the pulse generator.
Items 2 & 13 here.

http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-gl1100-goldw ... ml#results

If you suck on the hose you should hear the movement of the piston in the unit, if you remove the cover, item 5, you can see it. If you want to take the whole thing apart, the insulator, item 6, is plastic, breaks easily if you use force, and is very hard to find now.

[05c50]

As I want to replace the timing belts. But where it is important part of making the bike run I don't want to screw it up. Is replacing the timing belts really that hard? Or should I be good? I already have new belts and a new gasket for it.

My thinking is that if you were comfortable removing the carbs and engine (without breaking anything) and plan on reinstalling them, then you should be able to replace the belts with a little help from the forum. It's really not that hard and with the engine out of the frame, it's easy to get a straight on view of the timing.
By the way, when I remove the engine, I leave the carbs tied up against the upper frame and remove them after I drop the engine. It's much easier to disconnect the cables that way.

........Paul

[deathbypizza]

Ah that's what the little black hose is that went into the carb. Is that what your talking about?

I believe it is. If you follow the hose away from the carb to the rear of the engine, you find it reaches the pulse generator.
Items 2 & 13 here.

http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-gl1100-goldw ... ml#results

If you suck on the hose you should hear the movement of the piston in the unit, if you remove the cover, item 5, you can see it. If you want to take the whole thing apart, the insulator, item 6, is plastic, breaks easily if you use force, and is very hard to find now.

as long as i suck on her and hear it move im good to go eh hahah
dont really want to buy anyhtig i dont need to.
i think the engine is newer then my goldwing, as the serial numbers do not match with the frame.

[deathbypizza]

after removing the timing belt covers i noticed a LOT of black dust from the belt itself and noticable wear. however i never had any issues with the bike. did i luck out?

[chewy999]

after removing the timing belt covers i noticed a LOT of black dust from the belt itself and noticable wear. however i never had any issues with the bike. did i luck out?

Wouldn't bother buying a lottery ticket, sounds like you may have used up all your luck!

[deathbypizza]

after removing the timing belt covers i noticed a LOT of black dust from the belt itself and noticable wear. however i never had any issues with the bike. did i luck out?

Wouldn't bother buying a lottery ticket, sounds like you may have used up all your luck!

meaning i should change the belts and pretend i never saw what i saw?
no harm in buying a lotto ticket though

[chewy999]

Re. the lottery, you've got to in it to win it.

Definitely change the belts as I'm sure you will. It is always best to change them even if there is no apparent wear. Lot better than one failing and having to deal with the consequences.

[robin1731]

snip.............
i think the engine is newer then my goldwing, as the serial numbers do not match with the frame.

If you're thinking the numbers will be the same they won't be. Honda, or any of the other bike manufacturers had them come off line in sequence.

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[chewy999]

snip.............
i think the engine is newer then my goldwing, as the serial numbers do not match with the frame.

If you're thinking the numbers will be the same they won't be. Honda, or any of the other bike manufacturers had them come off line in sequence.

.

When I got my bike, I e-mailed the numbers to David Silver who confirmed the engine and frame came from different bikes. Then just sent for a new log book with the correct numbers in place.