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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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I did find it eventually, lol. This completes the brake component disassembly except for the '79 rear master and caliper, which is the same as the '78, from what I can see. I think I'm going to clean up and rebuild the '78 parts, as the bike will be registered as a '78. I'll also save some cash because the '79 front master cylinder cup is junk, so I'd have to replace it.
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'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

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The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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The '78 forks. Someone tried a cleanup of the lowers at some point. More character! And, yes, they bought a couple of cheap gaiters instead of the much more expensive dust caps...
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Pretty obvious that the seals have been replaced, and despite not having the dust caps, there isn't too much crud in there. I haven't looked closely at the '79 forks yet, as it's still tucked away in the shed, but I'll clean these up a bit first, drain the fluid, and see what that looks like. Buying a couple dust caps, replacing the fluid, bolt on and go does beat making the effort to make the tool and replace the seals. If I feel the need to revisit the forks later, so be it. Time to do some reading up on the 1000 forks!
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"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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What happened? I thought you'd be riding around on the Jalopy by now!
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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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warhead_71 wrote:What happened? I thought you'd be riding around on the Jalopy by now!
So did I! Too many irons in the fire (and not all of my choosing), I guess. I have been literally picking away at the rusty parts of the frame in my spare time, and I'm just about ready for rust killer and touch-up. Don't want to make it too nice, it is 'The Jalopy' after all, and blasting and powder coat isn't in the budget.
I have also been collecting parts as good deals come up here and there, including a new-in-the-box complete Dyna ignition, and a better set of carbs. Right now the debate raging in my head is how much more stuff do I bring into the basement for the winter... my stepson has decided he wants a Wing, so (hopefully) we'll be restarting the 'Quickie' project together over the winter as well.
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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Yes powder coating is pretty expensive. I've had good luck using Rustoleum "Farm & Implement" spray paint. It's pretty durable and a nice finish... nice enough for a "jalopy". Valspar also makes good "tractor" paint, I've been told.
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I picked up the Rustoleum, but not the spray can. As I'm working in my basement, i need to be careful of fumes, overspray, etc. It lays down pretty well, and the brush strokes will add some character, lol!
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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About brush strokes, I used foam brushes with great results, no marks. Just a thought
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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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Rustolium dries slow, so it is difficult to save the brush strokes. Best to leave the lid off and dry out the paint to preserve brush strokes. Else they all disappear.
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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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Track T 2411 wrote:December 26th. A friend and I headed out for the 'middle of everywhere,' Chicago, to pick up the '79. A few hours and several toll booths later, my truck had a new to me bike adorning the bed... It was a very pleasant visit, and I was quite happy with the condition of the bike. Thank you very much warhead_71!

Ready to roll!
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Fresh off the truck!
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I gotta ask, How much did it cost you?
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Leggman, I usually don't kiss and tell... 3 Bens with some spare parts, etc. Once I have a solid base to work with and a better idea of what I'll be using from each bike, a lot of the extras will come up for sale here, as much to get them out of my limited work space as anything.
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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I picked up another set of '78 carbs and they arrived just in time for Christmas!
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A little grungy on the outside, but they look very good on the inside, all in all...
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"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: The Jalopy: '78-79 Mash-up.

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I do have a few observations and questions, though...
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Three of the floats are like the first one pictured above, and the fourth is pictured second. Which one is original? The three that are the same look newer than the fourth.


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While the slides and caps look good, all of the needles have some serious grooves in them, all at about the same location. Anyone seen this before? I'm assuming I'll need to replace them...
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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At least whoever was into these before made removing the bowl screws easy. Notice the slots cut into the heads? A few of the threads are slightly buggered up, but I think I'll be able run a tap through them and clean them up.
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The caps look weather checked, but not cracked through, as far as I can tell. Am I safe in assuming that they're good? Is there a way to test them?
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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First thing I noticed was that float. The "brass" float is original.

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robin1731 wrote:First thing I noticed was that float. The "brass" float is original.

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So it sounds like I'll be 'mashing up' carbs too?!? I have three sets, all different numbers. Tried the search to ID them, but several hundred hits... Any hints? 769A, 771A, 758A
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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