Hey guys,
I've been enjoying the Phoenix over the last few weeks, and I've also been noticing the coolant level in the reserve tank has been fluctuating quite a bit. I filled it up to the full line a few weeks ago and it had slowly been falling until it hit just under midway last night. Went for a ride this afternoon and saw one drop of coolant on the ground in the garage. No signs of a leak anywhere, even at the water pump weep hole. The reserve coolant tank is now almost up at the full line again. Any ideas on what's going on here?
Coolant Reservoir Levels
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Coolant Reservoir Levels
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Re: Coolant Reservoir Levels
The 'tank' is an expansion reservoir, and the fluid level fluctuates based on the coolant temperature as well as fill level. It should be fairly consistent if always checked when cold, or always checked at normal operating temperature. It does also have an overflow tube which may explain the 'drop' of coolant on the garage floor, either residual fluid from a past overflow, or condensate. (I apologize if this is an obvious explanation...)
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Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: Coolant Reservoir Levels
Ah yeah, this time was the first time I checked it while it was hot so it might not have been an accurate reading. I'll check it in a few hours to see if it's still at the same level. Still a bit worrisome that I've been steadily losing coolant over the last few weeks somehow, but I'll just keep an eye on it for now.Track T 2411 wrote:The 'tank' is an expansion reservoir, and the fluid level fluctuates based on the coolant temperature as well as fill level. It should be fairly consistent if always checked when cold, or always checked at normal operating temperature. It does also have an overflow tube which may explain the 'drop' of coolant on the garage floor, either residual fluid from a past overflow, or condensate. (I apologize if this is an obvious explanation...)
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Re: Coolant Reservoir Levels
There are two lines on the overflow tank. You should fill to the lower line when COLD. When you take the top off, there are two lines to it. Make sure the one going forward to the radiator cap neck is attached to the connection with the tube going down into the tank. The other connection goes out another tube to the ground. And use only silicate-free antifreeze (Honda auto dealer parts department is much cheaper than motorcycle for the same Honda coolant).
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1976 Yamaha RD400c
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Re: Coolant Reservoir Levels
At first glance, this appears to be the source of my coolant leak. Is this a sign of needing a water pump replacement?
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Re: Coolant Reservoir Levels
That indentation is a casting plug. The transmission cover has a water channel that joins the block there, and seals with an o-ring, and the cover gasket itself. That gasket (if it is indeed a gasket) looks kind of funky to me...
As for the water pump, there is a weep hole directly aft the lower radiator hose housing on the bottom of the engine. If the water pump seals or bearings go bad, antifreeze and/ or oil will leak from the weep hole. I will tell you, however, that I've had a bad water pump that didn't leak enough to be noticeable, and on another engine found that the weep hole had been gooped full of silicone to 'plug the leak.' Just saying...
As for the water pump, there is a weep hole directly aft the lower radiator hose housing on the bottom of the engine. If the water pump seals or bearings go bad, antifreeze and/ or oil will leak from the weep hole. I will tell you, however, that I've had a bad water pump that didn't leak enough to be noticeable, and on another engine found that the weep hole had been gooped full of silicone to 'plug the leak.' Just saying...
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: Coolant Reservoir Levels
Thanks. Not too long after my last post I saw a single drop on the floor under the weep hole, so it's probably time. Hopefully I can make it thru the season and just top off when necessary. Wasn't planning to wrench that hard until the fall, I need a break from the hard stuff..Track T 2411 wrote:That indentation is a casting plug. The transmission cover has a water channel that joins the block there, and seals with an o-ring, and the cover gasket itself. That gasket (if it is indeed a gasket) looks kind of funky to me...
As for the water pump, there is a weep hole directly aft the lower radiator hose housing on the bottom of the engine. If the water pump seals or bearings go bad, antifreeze and/ or oil will leak from the weep hole. I will tell you, however, that I've had a bad water pump that didn't leak enough to be noticeable, and on another engine found that the weep hole had been gooped full of silicone to 'plug the leak.' Just saying...
Yellow 1976 GL1000 - "The Phoenix"
1976 GL1000 LTD
2002 CB900F 919
1976 GL1000 LTD
2002 CB900F 919
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