Clutch Cable Routing
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Clutch Cable Routing
I've searched everywhere for a cable routing diagram, but the only thing I've found is a youtube video about a GL1100 which, if correct, confirms my suspicions.
I pulled the tank for replacement and when I put it back in I really had to shove it in place but got it to fit. Wasn't too surprised given everything I've read here about the tank. Looked everything over and I saw that the cable didn't make into the tank indentation. No problem I thought, just push it into place. Well I've pushed, shoved, lubricated, try to pry the tank over, etc. but all I've done is firmly wedge it in place. Took the shelter off for better access but nothing helps. It isn't moving any further.
I decided to walk away before I broke something and now think the cable should go OVER the cross brace in front off the tank. It looks like it would be a more natural path and have fewer bends. It looks like it would clear the air box without trouble. The clutch was always stiff to pull (figured it went with the territory in a MAN'S bike ) but all the pushing, bending, prying and jamming I've done hasn't made it any worse. Maybe that's the problem?
The cable comes through here and passes under the brace and is not jammed in here If it went over the top of the brace I think it would work
I know the prior owner pulled the tank for a Kreem job (it's a mess, bought another tank in surprisingly good condition) so maybe the cable was removed and put back incorrectly.
There's so much knowledge here so if I'm wrong, please tell me the trick for getting it right! If I have to pull the tank again I want it to be the last time.
BTW, sorry for the poor lighting and quality of the photos, but this is my "shop" until the new one gets built.
I pulled the tank for replacement and when I put it back in I really had to shove it in place but got it to fit. Wasn't too surprised given everything I've read here about the tank. Looked everything over and I saw that the cable didn't make into the tank indentation. No problem I thought, just push it into place. Well I've pushed, shoved, lubricated, try to pry the tank over, etc. but all I've done is firmly wedge it in place. Took the shelter off for better access but nothing helps. It isn't moving any further.
I decided to walk away before I broke something and now think the cable should go OVER the cross brace in front off the tank. It looks like it would be a more natural path and have fewer bends. It looks like it would clear the air box without trouble. The clutch was always stiff to pull (figured it went with the territory in a MAN'S bike ) but all the pushing, bending, prying and jamming I've done hasn't made it any worse. Maybe that's the problem?
The cable comes through here and passes under the brace and is not jammed in here If it went over the top of the brace I think it would work
I know the prior owner pulled the tank for a Kreem job (it's a mess, bought another tank in surprisingly good condition) so maybe the cable was removed and put back incorrectly.
There's so much knowledge here so if I'm wrong, please tell me the trick for getting it right! If I have to pull the tank again I want it to be the last time.
BTW, sorry for the poor lighting and quality of the photos, but this is my "shop" until the new one gets built.
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
FSM page 4-14. Cable routing.
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Ex 2006 GL1800 - the Black Pearl SOLD! to make room for:
2021 Can-Am Spyder RT Limited Dark Chalk Metallic
1975 Red GL1000 project - ex Pistol Pete project
1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
Ex 1978 GL1000
Ex 1979 GL1000
Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
Ex '73 RD250
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
It is tight but it goes where you are stuck at. i think I usually remove the brake light wiring just to get it out of the way then reconnect it afterward. Cool off and try again. Once you have the angle right it should slide in there.
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
Scroll all the way down this page to the first topic in Similar Topics.
The routing drawing is located somewhere in that first topic's discussion.
The routing drawing is located somewhere in that first topic's discussion.
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
I looked in my FSM, but it doesn't show the right side frame path.pidjones wrote:FSM page 4-14. Cable routing.
"Looks and functionality are two different issues. It's like buying what appears to be a showroom kept bike and you get that "wow that's a bike I want" feeling, then you get it home and start the maintenance and voila, here come the skeletons from the closet." - Rednaxs60
1976 GL1000
1988 NT650 (Hawk GT)
1971 CB175
1965 S90
1972(?) CT90
1976 GL1000
1988 NT650 (Hawk GT)
1971 CB175
1965 S90
1972(?) CT90
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
The Video I did shows it but not in detail in the area you are working viewtopic.php?p=687308#p687308
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"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
Last edited by gltriker on Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:44 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
Thanks Whisker! Confident I don't need to pull the tank, I just went out and looked again.Whiskerfish wrote:It is tight but it goes where you are stuck at. i think I usually remove the brake light wiring just to get it out of the way then reconnect it afterward. Cool off and try again. Once you have the angle right it should slide in there.
It looks like it might be blocked by the edge of a weld where the frame overlaps. Since you confirmed that's where it needs to go, and I can't slide it up and pop it in the tank's relief, I decided to disconnect it from the handlebars and pull it out back to the clutch. I had to grease the entire sheath with Vaseline and tug it all the way but I got it out (left the clutch end attached). I then re-fed the cable up through the tank indentation and along the correct path to the bars. Other than smearing Vaseline all over my freshly painted tank, I'm happy how it went.
Took the opportunity to apply cable lube again so after that dries I'll reconnect the lever and see how it works. Thanks again for your very valuable advice!
"Looks and functionality are two different issues. It's like buying what appears to be a showroom kept bike and you get that "wow that's a bike I want" feeling, then you get it home and start the maintenance and voila, here come the skeletons from the closet." - Rednaxs60
1976 GL1000
1988 NT650 (Hawk GT)
1971 CB175
1965 S90
1972(?) CT90
1976 GL1000
1988 NT650 (Hawk GT)
1971 CB175
1965 S90
1972(?) CT90
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
Found a pic from when I bought it and was able to zoom in. Clearly, it wasn't in the right place before so maybe there was a little binding and I'll get smoother lever action now.
Thanks again everyone!"Looks and functionality are two different issues. It's like buying what appears to be a showroom kept bike and you get that "wow that's a bike I want" feeling, then you get it home and start the maintenance and voila, here come the skeletons from the closet." - Rednaxs60
1976 GL1000
1988 NT650 (Hawk GT)
1971 CB175
1965 S90
1972(?) CT90
1976 GL1000
1988 NT650 (Hawk GT)
1971 CB175
1965 S90
1972(?) CT90
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
When shorter bars are installed, I've found it easy to loop the cable over the air filter housing to take up the slack. BTW, I remember that I had to remove the tank bolt to allow it room for moving the cable into that tunnel.
"Love 'em all.... let God sort 'em out!"
Ex 2006 GL1800 - the Black Pearl SOLD! to make room for:
2021 Can-Am Spyder RT Limited Dark Chalk Metallic
1975 Red GL1000 project - ex Pistol Pete project
1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
Ex 1978 GL1000
Ex 1979 GL1000
Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
Ex '73 RD250
Ex '68 TR6C - chopped
Ex 2006 GL1800 - the Black Pearl SOLD! to make room for:
2021 Can-Am Spyder RT Limited Dark Chalk Metallic
1975 Red GL1000 project - ex Pistol Pete project
1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
Ex 1978 GL1000
Ex 1979 GL1000
Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
Ex '73 RD250
Ex '68 TR6C - chopped
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
Nuff said?pidjones wrote:FSM page 4-14. Cable routing.
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Re: Clutch Cable Routing
Good video, and good you got it.
"Less is More" Anonymous
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1977 GL1000 "O'le Blue." (sold )
2014 Yamaha 950 V Star (sold)
2017 Indian Scout Std w/ABS (sold)
2009 Honda VTX1300R "Me Brudder's" (sold)
1984 Honda Interstate "84' 2outa4." Gone
1982 Honda GL1100 "After thought." Gone
77Gowing
1977 GL1000 "O'le Blue." (sold )
2014 Yamaha 950 V Star (sold)
2017 Indian Scout Std w/ABS (sold)
2009 Honda VTX1300R "Me Brudder's" (sold)
1984 Honda Interstate "84' 2outa4." Gone
1982 Honda GL1100 "After thought." Gone
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