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Thanks very much.
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Great to see Mr. H as bike of the month. Congratulations.
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Sidecar Bob wrote:3rd report: The Labrador trip was delayed so I reached 200 Km before we left. A few days before I left I realized that oil was dripping from the oil filter cover. The bolt was tight so maybe I had dislocated the o-ring and pinched it somehow. Well, it wasn't that bad so I thought maybe I'd leave it for a couple of weeks after I got back but when I finally took it out again last Friday after sitting for 3 weeks the oil was fairly pouring out around the filter cover so instead of going for a ride I headed back home immediately to change the oil right away.

I've never seen this before: I use non-original oil filters from eBay that come with o-rings. When I installed one in the new engine before installing it in the bike the o-ring it protruded from the groove as it should in order to seal properly but when I removed the ring it was significantly smaller and much stiffer and it was obvious that it could not possibly seal properly. I compared the o-ring that came with the second filter with a Honda one and it was already stiffer and smaller so I installed the new filter with the Honda o-ring (I replaced the o-ring on the bolt with one I liked better too) and after a short ride yesterday there are no drips so that had to be the problem.
Had the same issue with some oil filters from the local NAPA parts store. The cartridge filter was the same but the O-ring was significantly smaller. Had to use some spares I had. Will be going back to ordering from my original supplier.
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When I was buying them from the Honda dealer I figured the rings only needed to be replaced every 2 or 3 years so I have a few of them on hand that I can use with filters that have either no rings or rings that are not suitable. When they run out in a few years I'll look for some red silicone ones on eBay.

I can buy filers on eBay for about 1/3 of what Honda dealers charge and now that I'm retired and not driving every day I'm only putting a few thousand Km on it per year so it is hard to justify paying the higher price.
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Congratulations on BOTM!

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Nice job on the engine. I like the color and how it balances with the blue stripes on the false tank and side covers. I'm getting ready to get started on splitting the cases for my 1100. The cylinders are pretty rust. I may wind up needing new cases. BTW- what windshield are you running? I like the look.
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I originally had a SlipStreamer windshield made for some variety of Harley that I bought NOS at Cycle Salvage when I first put Mr.H together in '97 (the one that's blue on the bottom). I didn't like it after I added the sidecar so I started looking for something slightly larger and in 2013 I found a "used" (never installed) Memphis Shades Alley Cat on eBay for a reasonable price that I figured I could make work with the SlipStreamer hardware. At the same time I replaced the headlight shell & ears, handlebar switches and instrument panel and added the speaker box.IIRC, all I had to do to make the new windshield fit the old hardware was open up the upper mounting holes a bit.
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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Looks good and congrats on BOTM.

I was looking into doing the same engine swap myself. I have an 83 Interstate that was abused by the PO. The number 3 piston contacted the intake valve. The water pump is seized so I assume the head overheated and the valve seized on the open position. Anyway, I have a 79 parts bike with a twisted frame but a good engine. Your first post on this thread says you did the same swap but had trouble with hills and the sidecar etc. Would you recommend the swap for someone not running a sidecar. Thanks
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Yes. The combination of 1000 engine and 1100 final drive resulted in overall gearing more than a gear higher than stock, which was wonderful on 2 wheels. I live in a rural area so most of my driving is on 80 Km/h roads in high gear where the lower RPM resulted in substantially better the mileage. The only negatives were that I always had to gear down to pass cars, to drive through towns with 50 Km/h speed limits and occasionally on a long steep hill. And that it didn't pull away quite as fast (still faster than most cars) but if you aren't drag racing that isn't a problem. Oh, and the 1100's wiring doesn't short the ballast resistor when starting so it will have to crank just a bit longer to start it (unless you change to GL1500 coils without the ballast).

The 1000 engine bolted into the 1100 frame and connected to the 1100 driveshaft with no modification. All I had to do was figure out how to mount a couple of generic automotive condensers in place of the 1100's spark units and how to connect the points ignition into the 1100's harness.
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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Sidecar Bob wrote:Yes. The combination of 1000 engine and 1100 final drive resulted in overall gearing more than a gear higher than stock, which was wonderful on 2 wheels. I live in a rural area so most of my driving is on 80 Km/h roads in high gear where the lower RPM resulted in substantially better the mileage. The only negatives were that I always had to gear down to pass cars, to drive through towns with 50 Km/h speed limits and occasionally on a long steep hill. And that it didn't pull away quite as fast (still faster than most cars) but if you aren't drag racing that isn't a problem. Oh, and the 1100's wiring doesn't short the ballast resistor when starting so it will have to crank just a bit longer to start it (unless you change to GL1500 coils without the ballast).

The 1000 engine bolted into the 1100 frame and connected to the 1100 driveshaft with no modification. All I had to do was figure out how to mount a couple of generic automotive condensers in place of the 1100's spark units and how to connect the points ignition into the 1100's harness.
Thanks for the response. I hadn't taken the differences in ignition into account. This is all down the road anyway as I'm just barely starting my 75 build. Thanks again.
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Since I've linked to just about every thread about Mr.H in this one I'll continue to do that so that everything can be found easily if nobody objects.
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Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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This year's first project Another unique 3D printed part for Mr.H

And I forgot to add this one last year Cheap eBay find to nice running lights
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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Now that I have the Mr.H: How a motorcycle evolves over time thread all future updates, modification reports &c will be added in that thread instead of here.
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1100/Dnepr) summer How a motorcycle evolves thread
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
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