No start from button
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- Steve81GL1100
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Re: No start from button
My OEM solenoid actually stuck in its "engaged" position. Fortunately not for long, and the starter seems none the worse for it.
As for water exposure, I still have the original rubber boots (one for each wire and the big one for the plug) in place so it's probably pretty well protected.
I don't expect the Amazon solenoid (WAY better than ebay, right?? LOL) to last forever.... I just wish the OEM part wasn't $106 which is what my dealer wants.
Even Randakk sells what appears to be the same aftermarket solenoid, although for a little more $$ but he includes a new positive cable. If he sells it, I trust it can't be garbage...
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As for water exposure, I still have the original rubber boots (one for each wire and the big one for the plug) in place so it's probably pretty well protected.
I don't expect the Amazon solenoid (WAY better than ebay, right?? LOL) to last forever.... I just wish the OEM part wasn't $106 which is what my dealer wants.
Even Randakk sells what appears to be the same aftermarket solenoid, although for a little more $$ but he includes a new positive cable. If he sells it, I trust it can't be garbage...
-Steve-
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1981 GL 1100 Standard, 81 Interstate bags, 84 GL1200 pegs, sometime National Cycle PlexiStar windshield
1996 BMW R1100R
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Re: No start from button
That would be Z1 Enterprises. Randal sold thatvstore long ago. Looking at the top of the original relay, I don't see how any boot on a wire will keep water out.Steve81GL1100 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:35 pm My OEM solenoid actually stuck in its "engaged" position. Fortunately not for long, and the starter seems none the worse for it.
As for water exposure, I still have the original rubber boots (one for each wire and the big one for the plug) in place so it's probably pretty well protected.
I don't expect the Amazon solenoid (WAY better than ebay, right?? LOL) to last forever.... I just wish the OEM part wasn't $106 which is what my dealer wants.
Even Randakk sells what appears to be the same aftermarket solenoid, although for a little more $$ but he includes a new positive cable. If he sells it, I trust it can't be garbage...
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1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
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Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
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Re: No start from button
pidjones wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:28 pmThat would be Z1 Enterprises. Randal sold thatvstore long ago. Looking at the top of the original relay, I don't see how any boot on a wire will keep water out.Steve81GL1100 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:35 pm My OEM solenoid actually stuck in its "engaged" position. Fortunately not for long, and the starter seems none the worse for it.
As for water exposure, I still have the original rubber boots (one for each wire and the big one for the plug) in place so it's probably pretty well protected.
I don't expect the Amazon solenoid (WAY better than ebay, right?? LOL) to last forever.... I just wish the OEM part wasn't $106 which is what my dealer wants.
Even Randakk sells what appears to be the same aftermarket solenoid, although for a little more $$ but he includes a new positive cable. If he sells it, I trust it can't be garbage...
-Steve-
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Re: No start from button
Not the solenoid used on the GL1100, GL500 & GL650 (& a lot of other models). These are the ones with the 4 pin connector and the main fuse built in; As you can see below the main fuse is connected to the B terminal so if you reverse the M and B terminals no current can flow from the battery to the electrical system.
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Re: No start from button
Hmm. Yes, if you use the ones with the built-in fuse that interferes with the frame on the GL1000. I use the ones without the fuse (I've even used the ones with bullet pigtails) and use an inline automotive fuse holder to replace the old "dog bone" fuse. I presently am using one that has the added-on fuse removed. The B terminals are just connected via the fuse to the battery input terminal externally.
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Ex 1979 GL1000
Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
Ex '73 RD250
Ex '68 TR6C - chopped
Ex 2006 GL1800 - the Black Pearl SOLD! to make room for:
2021 Can-Am Spyder RT Limited Dark Chalk Metallic
1975 Red GL1000 project - ex Pistol Pete project
1972 Triumph T150V Trident rescue - finished and FOR SALE!
1976 Yamaha RD400c
1978 GL1000 with '75 engine - the Hunley
Ex 1978 GL1000
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Ex '79 CB750F rat bike
Ex '86 SEi
Ex '77 GL1000
Ex '76 RD400
Ex '72 Penton 125 set up for flat track
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Re: No start from button
The original solenoid on the 1100 (like this thread is about) looks pretty much like the one in that pic except that it has a dogbone fuse under a door on the side where the holder for the blade fuse is on the one in that pic. And the internal connections match the drawing so which terminal is Battery and which is Motor does matter.
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Re: No start from button
I've done the lawn mower solenoid and a Randakk's replacement. A cheapo from ebay failed on the first start but that's just my luck.
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Re: No start from button
Huh - do you have a pic of the lawn-solenoid setup? Do you think they are more robust than the stock ones? Does anyone have any pics of their non-traditional solenoids they've been using...?
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Re: No start from button
I'm trying to gear up for a tech query on electrical issues this wonderful, cold Thanksgiving morning, and I find a solenoid question near the top of the list. Fun.
Dr. Frankenstein, here's a set up that came to me with the '79 GL1000 I've been working on for about a year now.
I've since removed the unit and am using one with the blade fuse on it. But it did seem to work in some capacity, such as I could tell at the time.
It all seemed to me to be a "use what you got laying around" response to a failed solenoid, a version of electrical bubble gum and duct tape. But what do I know, really?
Dr. Frankenstein, here's a set up that came to me with the '79 GL1000 I've been working on for about a year now.
I've since removed the unit and am using one with the blade fuse on it. But it did seem to work in some capacity, such as I could tell at the time.
It all seemed to me to be a "use what you got laying around" response to a failed solenoid, a version of electrical bubble gum and duct tape. But what do I know, really?
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In the Stable and Ridable
1992 ST1100 - my longer haul tourer
1987 VFR700 - son's latest, in blue/silver
1983 GL1100I - son's naked Blue Phoenix
1982 GL1100I - naked bagger Cabernet (surf bike)
1979 GL1000 - Ginger Lynn, but not that Ginger Lynn (Wing and a Prayer)
1978 CB550K - son's cafe
1983 CB550SC - one owner, 5k, great paint & seat/good chrome (will soon sell)
1986 VFR700 - fun throwback in RWB
Active and Semi-active Project(s)
1976 GL1000 - sulphur yellow, original paint (it's now official: winter '24-5 project)
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Re: No start from button
Here's a Ford Solenoid on a 75. Bought it like that, didn't need to continue using it.
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