GL1100 Cheap E-Z Single Carb Conversion

[83gl1200]

There is no bias intended. One of my jobs as a moderator is to ensure that members are free to comment and work on new designs without harassment. However, that comes with the responsibility to provide factual analysis for other members. We have already had enough experiences with folks making overblown claims. I, myself, like the single carb idea on several levels, but have as yet seen any evidence that they will out perform the stock setup.

I only said something because you seemed to attack his opinion as if he claimed it as fact, which he didn't. I also think you would be right to jump on anyone trying to make money off a single carb setup, but he isn't. He shared this setup for free and has no reason to back up his opinion with numbers.

I also assume he's not the best person to get the most from stock carbs, few are, so its just his opinion based on two bikes that aren't equal.

It works well enough, that's where this should end.

If one of us started marketing kits built on this and making claims that deserve further scrutiny, then you should come on the attack.

[dkl]

There ought to be enough info in this thread for anyone to complete this build and set-up....If any questions arise, I will be on the Steve Saunders Forum.........I have an ongoing thread on the build over there. Way to many Carb sellers, Carb rebuilders, and kit sellers in control over here.......Bye!!!!!!!

[joedrum]

there is a first admendment right period ...and it is not conditional ... thats what i believe...

something good came from all this 83gl1200 bike is another hooched out 1200 thats cool

[robin1731]

snip.......... Way to many Carb sellers, Carb rebuilders, and kit sellers in control over here.......Bye!!!!!!!

Not sure why this always ends up this way. People voicing opinions. Both ways. There are no carb builders or kit sellers in control here. Plenty of talk about single carbs, fuel injection, even off the wall carb applications. If you really want to leave that is your option. But that would remove another person to speak on single carb conversions.

[83gl1200]

there is a first admendment right period ...and it is not conditional ... thats what i believe...

something good came from all this 83gl1200 bike is another hooched out 1200 thats cool

Hooched out hooptie.
My hooptie rollin', tailpipe draggin'
Heat don't work an' my girl keeps naggin'
Six-nine Buick, deuce keeps rollin'
One hubcap 'cause three got stolen.

[Terry in Australia]

I'd like to apologise to DKL, because it seems that I unwittingly brought on this rush of unfriendly posts, by asking how one setup compared to the other.

Sorry DKL, that obviously wasn't my intent, I've enjoyed this thread and I'm disappointed to see how it's unravelled in the last 24 hours. Cheers, Terry.

[cuyler1]

bravo! before i joined this forum i had read forums of different natures' and was intrigued with this site as i believe it was right up my alley. a bunch of guys helping each other for no money yet only the desire to ride a personalized machine. like the fonz. dkl i do this for fun and i am not a rolex rider, i have to get to work - girlfriends house- and back home on my bike not the bike on a aaa wrecker. when i first jumped in this posting area in february i got shot down by narrow minded ones and just quit saying anything. i wrote you in the other forum gwd that i've followed your progress and enjoy it/ i turn wrenches on my bikes on the cheap creative ideas i or others come up with.name of the game for me. don't let them bother you, keep on posting

[dkl]

I had to come back one time for an important update for safety......Using the Flex PVC for runners, and the weight of my inside the shelter tool box resting on the Air Filter, I have been keeping an eye out for any sag that might occur with the PVC manifold. Today I took a two hour ride in 95 degree heat. When I got home I believe there is a 1/4 inch sag, not much, but too much for me, and to much for safety sake....If you do this build the weight of the carb should be secured in some fashion....This is how a Hardware Guy did it.

I took a small piece of 1 x 4 lumber, it was the perfect thickness for my application. I notched out for the heads of the bolts that secure the coolant tubes to the engine. This holds the spacer in place along with the downward pressure of the manifold. I also used a piece of rubber mat and glued it on top of the spacer to protect the manifold. I will trim excess spacer so it will not show after I am sure..
Ride Safe...........

[cuyler1]

tryed to post my pics , no luck on that. glad to see you back. i was outside polishing the aluminum manifold runners i built for my conversion. will go with steel plates and tubes to be painted or chromed to sell. yes sell ,got 4 guys interested in these and a number of street-fighters asking about building them manifold /carb conversions. i wondered about the weight factor and heat, but weght more than anything. i like what you've come up with. i thought about a stanchions or ell brackets up or down in that area when i ran the 32/36 weber. that was a heavy piece ,heavier than the stock set up. last week i finished an 89 1500 head gasket, waterpump and fuel reulator job and carbs have always had the bog. looking into converting that one at this time. keep the posts' coming dkl, unique carburation meant to me what people like us are doing. then as i read the non believers i wonder if unique carburation has another meaning.

[Terry in Australia]

Make sure you post some pics of the setup that you're going to sell mate, I might be interested too? Cheers, Terry.

[cuyler1]

i'm trying to post pics. wrote letter to this administrative board for help-compliance- did i pto? hell you can send me an email to cuyler111111@gmail.com and i can send you pics all day long(and night).

[Terry in Australia]

No worries mate, I just sent you an email. Cheers, Terry.

[cuyler1]

if you need 72 more let me know

[83gl1200]

I had to come back one time...Ride Safe...........

I think it would be better to use metal to mount the carb to the frame like I said previously to keep the carb from going anywhere if there was a backfire... A few posts back I gave the story of a generator that blew the carb off with starting fluid/backfire, leaving a gas line loose pumping fuel onto an engine on fire...

It would hold the whole assembly up and add safety keeping it from going anywhere if the manifold blew up completely, and act as a good ground for the carb while you're at it.

Also this change in the picture attached is important for safety: The fuel inlet should be safety wired to the carb body. The brass inlets are only pressed in on this carb design, and esp on cheap chinese carbs they are known to just pop loose dumping fuel everywhere. A simple safety wire from the hose clamp holding the hose on the inlet, to a screw on the carb body or something else solid is all it takes.
Couldn't hurt to do it on a solex also though, keeps the line from coming off the inlet also, not just the inlet brass fitting coming loose from the aluminum carb body.

The safety wire issue is discussed on thesamba.com, and that's where I stole the pics from.

This second pic also shows why the brass barb pulls out over time even on genuine solex carbs. Lots of folks push the hose on as far as it will go then crank down on the clamp until the hose gets crushed. The hose squeezes out between the clamp and the carb and puts outward pressure on the fitting. Over time that pressure and the constant vibration of the engine will loosen the barb.

Don't push the hose on until it stops ... leave a little gap before tightening it down.

Btw glad you are back, if only temporary and for no other reason than safety.

[cuyler1]

whenever i do the spin-on oil filter adapters i add safety wire to them , never thought about that one-thank you very much!