What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
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- ericheath
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
Dragging up an old thread, but for Robin, or anyone with experience, will this shorten the amount of travel also? I am about to put on a set of 85 Magna forks (whole front end) on one of my wings, either the 77 or 83. They had pretty long shocks and I don't think I will like the added height. I could cut two inches as Robin shows above, and then maybe a bit at the top sticking through. It would be a good upgrade for the brakes and stiffer 41mm forks. If I had a donor gl1200 that would be better, but I have a Magna that is pretty much dead in the water I think. I am not enough of a rider to know how this might affect overall ridability, so I'm looking for advice. I'm thinking of this as a boulevard bobber type. Anyone want to opine?
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
Yes it will shorten the travel. But if you use the same springs and spacers it will also make it stiffer.
1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
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1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
How will that affect cornering? on a rougher road?
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
It will be stiffer, like I said. Some forks have a spacer on top of the spring. Sometimes an inch or a little longer. If you don't use that spacer then the forks won't be as stiff. A lot depends on the fork springs too. If they are worn/weak then they will be softer. If too soft they should be replaced. Whether using this method of shortening the forks or even with stock forks.
My super sport wing has the forks shortened about an inch. Along with progressive springs iti s pretty stiff. Many on here would find it too stiff. I don't mind it. If you ride aggresively then you will like the stiffer forks. The bike won't compress the forks as much in a high speed turn. And it won't dive as much during hard braking.
The ride you will get with any forks or rear shocks is really up to the rider. If you like plush and soft or stiff and harsh. It can all be done the way you like it.
My super sport wing has the forks shortened about an inch. Along with progressive springs iti s pretty stiff. Many on here would find it too stiff. I don't mind it. If you ride aggresively then you will like the stiffer forks. The bike won't compress the forks as much in a high speed turn. And it won't dive as much during hard braking.
The ride you will get with any forks or rear shocks is really up to the rider. If you like plush and soft or stiff and harsh. It can all be done the way you like it.
1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
For Robin or anyone who knows. Robin did this and removed the anti dive. If I do this on v65 Magna shocks, will the spacer eliminate the anti dive mechanism? (Trac drive) I haven't pulled one of these apart yet and don't know what's down there. I want to shorten mine at least two inches.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
I've never had a Honda one apart so I couldn't say. Sorry.
1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
I've been reading. it sounds like a lot of people by-pass them to save the seals from blowing out. I think I'll do that.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
I was reading on other sites, and they say if you shorten this way, you have to reduce fork oil proportionately. True?? Sorry for the questions, but I'm learning as I go.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: What the heck did robin1731 buy now??!!
Yeah, pretty much. That is when it's good to use the measurement method for oil. Like so many inches from the top. Rather than a certain amount. Like 409cc's, like the Yamaha I just did yesterday.ericheath wrote:I was reading on other sites, and they say if you shorten this way, you have to reduce fork oil proportionately. True?? Sorry for the questions, but I'm learning as I go.
1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder