Project Shed wreck

[Fred Camper]

Great build to follow. Very nice fabrication work. I too am anxiously waiting on your welder to finish.

[Blubber]

Had a small update from my welder today: he just got back from a loooooong job offshore so no time to weld for my rear wheel. ahh well.. cant really complain for the pricely sum of a few six packs

Meanwhile....
Re-used the original steering stem, modified it to fit in the lower tripple tree of the Suzuki B-King. Pressed it in real tight and used high strength glue to make sure it stays put. If i use just one nut on top of the upper bearing it will fit. I will use the tabbed ring to lock the nut AND the nut will be clamped down with the nut on top op the upper tripple tree.


Found time to fabricate a missing spacer for the front wheel:


Got the fattest tire that (safely) fitted the front rim:


Which means I need to mod the fender i use a bit more ... thats a job for later.


Also found cheap Honda alternative for the OKI MPS-200; these are the "long" N.E.C MC 5194 used on Honda's CX650C
and the CX500C. Mine started to drip.


And.... treated myself with a nice set of a radial clutch and brake pump



And... my new honda waterpump, replacement timing belts and replacement full gasket set arrived . (sorry no pics)
Now I need to find some time to put them to use.

And now... beer time

[CYBORG]

nows a good time to ck that your fork stops will work, or to fix them so they will

[Blubber]

nows a good time to ck that your fork stops will work, or to fix them so they will

Don't worry....i had already checked them, current combo will not work.
I have a few options , i think i have my mind made up.... maybe... sort of...soon
It is on the do to list.

thanks for the tip

[Major_moto]

Nice work so far - this thing is gonna be sharp!

[Easter]

I really could use that wheel! I am in the midst of a '75 project using a 93 CB 1000 front end (http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=46091) with a wheel much like that. I ended up having the stock rear wheel powder coated to match and I am happy with the results but your wheel would be perfect. Oh well, its going to look great on your bike.

[Blubber]

I really could use that wheel! I am in the midst of a '75 project using a 93 CB 1000 front end (http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=46091) with a wheel much like that. I ended up having the stock rear wheel powder coated to match and I am happy with the results but your wheel would be perfect. Oh well, its going to look great on your bike.

I know that thread, i refer to it to my wife as the "the box wing".
I buy projects like that all the time. I love those big motorcycle puzzles
I could drive this one home for a change. i know what you are going through... it was all worth it when it starts! good luck with getting her ready.

When I look at the actual hours i've put in the wheel; i think its roughly 20 of which mostly machining, some measuring and e-bay/ craigslist hunting. A fully equipped shop should be able to it under 8 hours incl welding.

I removed the original hub at home, machined the old hub at work, modified the St1100 wheel at a befriended bike shop. made the sparer at work, made the drawing for it at work dunno how that got there. got the space material from the bin... i love my work.. because of those little extra's
My extra hours vs the shop are cleaning up the swarf 10 times , remeasuring and setting it up for machining about 12 times, thinking what tools to use and making sure no one else uses the machines. I had several sessions of no more than a hour max. My only cost up till now is the "new" st1100 - €75 incl shipping.

If outsourced I think this rear wheel would cost me about approx €500... extra.

I am not doing it to safe money... i am doing it because i think i pull it off myself
honestly.. if I needed to outsource it... it wouldnt have happened.- costwise.

[EHE]

great to see that there are more dutchmen into modifying old GL's !
Great build

how are you gonna align your wider backwheel? in the middle and widen the swingarm, or do you place it out of the center to make it fit?

[Easter]

Well, I have to say both of you Dutchmen know your way around the machine shop!

[Kriss]

Sooooo nice

[Blubber]

great to see that there are more dutchmen into modifying old GL's !
Great build

how are you gonna align your wider backwheel? in the middle and widen the swingarm, or do you place it out of the center to make it fit?

Thanks.
The wider back wheel isn't that much wider. It's there to match the front, not to go bigger.
The rear tire is a Yokohama 160/70/17, ive measured it when mounted and pressurised....it is 160mm wide .
But.. it is almost in line. For clearance reasons the rear wheel is offset 2-3 mm to the left.

Before i started modifing the hub, I measured the distance between the heart of the rim to the collar on the drive side (36mm from memory) . I made the adapter/ spacer to that size. The old hub sat at the same distance from the collar to the heart of the rim. I then put the rear tire on before welding to check for clearance issues.
I had to move/ enlarge the indent on the right side off the swingarm 1cm closer to the drive. Now the tire clears perfectly (5mm) when centered. When centered the clearance with the fueltank wasn't that good. Even with the tank fully spacered out to the right I couldnt get it better than 2-3mm.

Keeping in mind that the tire will be changed some time and tires can be wider than anticipated I decided to offset the rear wheel. I did look into modding the tank. The tanks is way to good and clean to perform surgery on it
When my welder is finished I will post a pic to show the end result of the wheel and the offset. I dont think many people will notice it. As for cornering... i have driven bikes with 2.5cm offset, no problems cornering. You do notice a different wear patern on the rear wheel.

[Blubber]

Hello guys,

Yesterday i finally got my wheel back from the welder. One tip......Never ever say "no rush" to a welder

It only took 2 months Getting the wheel back welded was nice.

The project did get side tracked because of... well.... life as we all know .

Some pics for the viewers

Immidately had some rubber mounted so it can stand on its wheel. (some day )

[Blubber]

I found some time to get the wheel in.

All is good





Some measurements




My conclusion:

The wheel is almost perfectly centered! with everthing torqued down



Always nice when a plan comes together

[Blubber]

Next step....

Trial fitting the seats + rear fender....

After a grinder action it looks very possible.

The seat height is not correct yet (to high) , there are gaps because of that but when i put some time it it will work.

I ran out off cutting discs but i am happy.







This is how far i got. I did remove the shock mounts as a prep to the softail shocks i will be using


Next weeks finding tinkering time is impossible because of work. So.... until we meet again

[jimmyz3286]

More detail on the rear fender. What is it from and can we get a pic or two of it?