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Track T 2411 wrote:I'd never get away with the shipping container... I can't have an auto sit anywhere for more than a week without one of the 'snoopy' neighbors complaining. Homeowners' Associations! :IDTS:
I'm sure glad i dont have snoopy neighbors complaining Track T , about auto's sitting around my yard . lolol .
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HOA can seem like PITA.... then you get a neighbor like this

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Sagebrush wrote:Save your money and build the garage.
I agree W/sage brush anything you spend on half measures is wasted money.
concentrate on maximum efficiency for the space you have, keep it clean & organised.
maybe ad a small lean-to on one side.
minimize your projects.. no MBS!
do not store bicycles,snowmobiles, lawnmowers, plastic Santa & ect in your workshop.
yes this is not as exciting.. but just save your money untill you can build a legitimate work shop.
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Would it be possible to tear the back wall out of the 8x8 shed and add another 4 or 8 feet? Cost wise it would be the cheapest way to go.
Robin's comment about snow loads on low pitch roofs is a valid concern.
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Sage advice from Sagebrush, lol! You all are making me think! I'm not sure if that's good or not!

OK. On the "Save your money and build the garage," and "half measures are wasted money," I've spent a lot of time considering this issue over the past year. The plan for the garage would include a 'separate' workshop area due to limitations of space on my lot. Essentially, I can only build 20' wide at the front of the garage due to a handicap access ramp, and 24' deep. I thought about 30' deep, but I would then sacrifice a good portion of my driveway, and parking is an issue because our 'street' is more like a shared driveway. So the tentative plan for the garage is 20' W x 24' D with a bump-out on the left side (the house side). The bump-out could be anywhere from 4' to 12' wide, and up to 16' deep. The 12 x 12 'shed' I'm contemplating would, in essence, become the bump-out. The only 'wasted' parts would be the base, which I can actually use as a low deck (or sell), and one wall when it gets attached. So it wouldn't be 'half measures' per say, but rather preliminary measures, lol.

I've also thought about Greg's idea of adding on to the existing shed, or buying another to attach to it, but I'd be almost half way to building the 12 x 12 cost wise, and as much or more labor wise (leveling the ground, tying in old and new floor, roof, etc.
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I bought a shed prebuilt 12 by 14. It was built by the Amish. Very well built. They even brought it to my back yard pulled it up a hill ,set it where I wanted it , leveled it all for 2000.00 dollars.If you don't have all the money, they will let you make payments with a small down payment. I think its a great deal.
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My house has a 100 amp main panel, and I ran a 60 amp sub panel to the garage for not much money. I've got a freezer on 110 and the only other big users of elec is my table saw and welder which are both wired for 220. 60 amps handles everything ok. Can only use one at a time anyway. Just a thought...
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rcmatt007 wrote:HOA can seem like PITA.... then you get a neighbor like this

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You could think outside the trailer a bit on this one. Try to size the materials so later you can re-use them as a part of the garage. If that garage will have precut studs or 8 footers , use them without cutting. If you need a longer stud size than 8 feet, lap the pre-cuts into the length that you need. You can fasten them together with deck construction [green ,non rusting] screws and then take them apart and use them later. Screw the plywood floor to the floor joists, and consider oiling the screws a bit so they come out easier later on. Use square drive screws so they come out easy later.
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It's interesting that the subject of shops has come up again, and this thread as well. With my new job, I deliver to a lot of construction sites, and I see lots of materials go to waste. One morning I watched as two guys cut up sections of pre-made walls for a 16x20 garage and tossed them into a dumpster because they weren't made to spec. If the site wouldn't have been 120 miles from home (and they had to be gone that day), I would have figured out a way to pick them up. It almost killed me watching...
Anyway, I hit another site a few weeks ago that had a pile of lumber out near the dumpster, and I asked about it. Long story short, I'm (hopefully) going to pick the whole mess up tomorrow! Should be enough dimensional lumber for a 12x12 shop and then some! Stay tuned...
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nice work perk action1
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Well, it's been a long time since I started this thread, with lots of life changes along the way. The short version goes something like this...

We sold our house early this spring and bought a mobile home in a '50 and older' park to enable us to take care of Robin's father, who is 78 and suffers from several health issues. (He's now in a rehab facility, and waiting for permanent placement.) It's a nice, quiet park, almost like a permanent campground, and the people are pretty friendly.
One nice thing is our house came with two sheds. One bad thing is that both are mostly unusable for working on motorcycles.
I'll post up some photos of my solution as soon as I figure out how, lol!
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'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
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Welcome back Todd. Life doe get in the way from time to time, I know. Hopefully the sheds are at least big enough to park the bikes. I work on the patio all the time. Spent the past few days breaking down a parts bike I got a couple weeks ago.
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life moves on, and things change. we make the best of changes, and the things that are important to us, find a way to become reality. Ihave had several shops over the years. some better then others,and most better then what I have now. So I find a way. So will you.
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I've been seriously wondering where you've been, Todd !! No opinions to offer about the building of a small shop though.
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