GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

Discuss everything about Honda GoldWing. Feel free to ask any question related to GoldWing.

Moderators: Oldewing, CYBORG, robin1731, Forum Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
1983lux
Billet Alum. Member
Billet Alum. Member
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 6:30 pm
Location: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#16

Post by 1983lux »

Gl1100 gears:
IMG_6578.jpeg
IMG_6577.jpeg
IMG_6576.jpeg
IMG_6575.jpeg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
1975 Honda GL1000 - Naked
Motor from 1981 1100
1975 Cams and Carbs
Dyna S Ignition
User avatar
1983lux
Billet Alum. Member
Billet Alum. Member
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 6:30 pm
Location: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#17

Post by 1983lux »

So what I ended up doing is taking the gears out of my old 1000 block with a bad piston. I used gl1000 shafts, drum, and all gears except 5th (gl1000 5th is bigger and wouldn’t go thru hole on front of the engine). Should’ve noticed the clutch shaft is different on the 1000, so had to use 1000 clutch since I only noticed after cases put together. Also used gl1000 primary drive gear that goes on driveshaft. I was turning the engine on the bench and was able to move the shift drum into all gear positions now.
1975 Honda GL1000 - Naked
Motor from 1981 1100
1975 Cams and Carbs
Dyna S Ignition
User avatar
Whiskerfish
President
President
Posts: 37734
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:34 pm
My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/whiskerfish/
Location: Norfolk Va

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#18

Post by Whiskerfish »

looks like part of a shift fork??
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike

Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
User avatar
1983lux
Billet Alum. Member
Billet Alum. Member
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 6:30 pm
Location: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#19

Post by 1983lux »

Hmm kind of does, but the ones that were in it look totally intact
1975 Honda GL1000 - Naked
Motor from 1981 1100
1975 Cams and Carbs
Dyna S Ignition
User avatar
CYBORG
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 24848
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:52 pm
Location: Muskegon mich

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#20

Post by CYBORG »

I sort of recall something the front cover gasket being to thin causing a shifting problem on one of the Goldwing's. My not be relevant, but it just popped into my head
1978 custom GL1000
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
User avatar
1983lux
Billet Alum. Member
Billet Alum. Member
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 6:30 pm
Location: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#21

Post by 1983lux »

Hey Cyborg, a good theory which I tried but even with front cover off it wouldn’t shift.
1975 Honda GL1000 - Naked
Motor from 1981 1100
1975 Cams and Carbs
Dyna S Ignition
User avatar
CYBORG
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 24848
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:52 pm
Location: Muskegon mich

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#22

Post by CYBORG »

Ya there was one but I don't remember which one. Just took a shot
1978 custom GL1000
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
redglbx
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 1349
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:39 am
Location: NW Indiana,

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#23

Post by redglbx »

Cyborg is correct, years ago I changed the water pump and just cheaped out because money was tight at that time so instead of buying a gasket kit I just RTV’D things back together,,, it was a mistake !

Had to take it all back apart, clean it up and put it back together with the proper gaskets. Lesson learned as they say.
Red 1976 oe owner
1976 LTD restored
1980 CBX , in the que, to fix the ignorant heavy handed owner
1981 CBX
1977 CB750 K7
2014 FJR OE owner, sold
1980 GL1100
1984 GL1200 naked
1969 CL350, in the que
User avatar
1983lux
Billet Alum. Member
Billet Alum. Member
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 6:30 pm
Location: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#24

Post by 1983lux »

A quick question I had, is there any potential issue with me having put the GL1100 5th gear in with the rest all being gl1000 gears? it seemed to mesh up okay but I'm not a transmission expert by any means. I do hope it works as its a higher gear and the gl1000 would benefit from more of an overdrive imho. Didn't have much choice as the larger GL1000 5th gear wouldn't fit through the hole in the front of the gl1100 engine for final assembly.
1975 Honda GL1000 - Naked
Motor from 1981 1100
1975 Cams and Carbs
Dyna S Ignition
User avatar
Whiskerfish
President
President
Posts: 37734
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:34 pm
My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/whiskerfish/
Location: Norfolk Va

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#25

Post by Whiskerfish »

Don't know. I do not recall anyone discussing this configuration before.
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike

Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
User avatar
1983lux
Billet Alum. Member
Billet Alum. Member
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 6:30 pm
Location: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#26

Post by 1983lux »

Hmm, it’ll be a first perhaps 🤔 excited to test this GL1000/1100 frankenengine with new gears 😁

My only complaint with the gl1100 block in the 1000 frame initially was it revved around 5000 on the highway, not bad, but kinda high. Even with the original 1000 engine I always found myself clicking the shifter into non-existent 6th gear. If the switch from the 1000’s .939 gear to the 1100’s .909 gear works I wonder how much of a difference that’d make.
1975 Honda GL1000 - Naked
Motor from 1981 1100
1975 Cams and Carbs
Dyna S Ignition
Shadowjack
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 699
Joined: Fri May 26, 2017 11:07 am

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#27

Post by Shadowjack »

.909 divided by .939 will be the percentage of change. Output speed will be 96.8% of the previous gearset. 1000 rpm goes to 968.
User avatar
1983lux
Billet Alum. Member
Billet Alum. Member
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 6:30 pm
Location: New Brunswick, Canada

Re: GL1100 motor will only shift into 1st and Neutral

#28

Post by 1983lux »

Ah, so maybe 150 less Rpms at highway speed, not a big difference I suppose
1975 Honda GL1000 - Naked
Motor from 1981 1100
1975 Cams and Carbs
Dyna S Ignition
Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “GoldWing Tech Discussions”