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My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer/ Bobber with a kick
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
All I have to compare it to is the 85 EFI, which I know is a little deeper, but don't know if a standard carbed one is any different. The efi cover measures 4 3/4" deep. The 84 measured 4 3/8".
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Something has to be different. My 86 in a 77 frame is a lot tighter then that
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1977 custom with 1200 engine
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
I know!
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
I suspect the jigs the welders used varied that much?? Yours is the biggest gap I've seen yet. It's enough to change the balance of the whole bike.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
It certainly seems odd...half tempted to toss the EFI block into the frame, and see how that one fits in the 77.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Keep up the good work. We're all learning. Been looking for a cheap 1200.
Bikes at present:
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
I have been thinking about lopping off the fuel pump stub on the right head...going to run an electric pump, and my tach is electric as well, so I really don't need it there. I have to check, but I think I have a cover that would fit over it. Am I correct in thinking that all I would need to do is put a seal on the end of the cam and button it up?
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Yep Robin, figured many that know about it don't always look at the build threads, so I took a chance and posted it in the technical section with more of a question base.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Decided that I would knock off the end of the cam shaft...went pretty easy! Now I just need to get a couple parts to keep it from leaking oil all over!
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2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Little update...would like to get this engine off the stand and get anther one in its place, but wanted to paint it as long as it was up there. So, stripping all the old paint off, we had a go at putting some color on. Had a mess of trouble with the primer...something was wrong with the can, it shot great big blobs of primer everywhere. Not a good deal, but the final cost seemed to cover well...see what you think:
I think it turned out ok...need to touch up a couple areas, but pretty good coverage all the way around it.
I think it turned out ok...need to touch up a couple areas, but pretty good coverage all the way around it.
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2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Looks like a black 1200 with 77 heads to me. Got 'er done.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
Got a bit more done...engine is in the frame, (hopefully for good) the clutch slave cylinder was rebuilt before it went in the frame. I wanted to check the stator, but if I have to pop it back out, it isn't such a big deal yet.
I also got the manifolds on, with the nitrous injectors in place, shiney valve covers on, installed the C5 module, and tossed on Randakk's spin on filter conversion.
She's getting closer!
I also got the manifolds on, with the nitrous injectors in place, shiney valve covers on, installed the C5 module, and tossed on Randakk's spin on filter conversion.
She's getting closer!
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2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
I am not getting any photos at the moment and maybe they cover my question but what did you do to cover the camshaft after you knocked off the fuel pump drive? I need something on my 78 build and although I planned to cut something out of aluminum, maybe you had a better idea??
Bikes at present:
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
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Re: My 77 project that will turn into a cafe racer with a kick
I used a bit of the remaining aluminum plate I had. Was a tad tricky getting the correct shape, but it seemed to work.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550

