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Cookie wrote:Where the heck is that shop rag?
I admire that you have found a method of antiqueing engine paint. It has taken many years for the folks in the antique and document field to discover proper methods of doing this.
So being stupid has made me clever? I like that!
Cookie wrote: They say that practice makes perfect but you might consider adapting your engine for Dzus fasteners.
http://www.southco.com/landingpages/dzus/
No need for the fasteners. I just snap the bolts by over-tightening and it just falls apart!
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John,

I am quite sorry I will miss your wit at the Randak ralley.
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I too am sorry you can't make it. Is there no chance of that?
I know it's a hell of a long way. How's the injury healing?
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Residual pain but no big deal. Unless I rent a helicopter I won't make it though.
Most of us are looking forward to reports!
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Engine still on the bench.

I decided that since I had stripped it down that far, I better sort the noisy gearbox. That way, hopefully, it won't have to come down again. Last thing I wanted to do, as it meant spending money I haven't got but it seemed only logical.

As I have said, I found a couple of things wrong. A missed out spacer on the selector claw shaft, which had caused the shaft to move and had distorted the centering spring. That would have caused the odd feel to the gear change but probably not been the cause of noise.

Can't see anything wrong with the gears themselves, but the primary chain seems very slack; over an inch of slop doesn't seem right to me but I can't find any dimensions anywhere to tell me the wear.
Comparing the old chain to the supposedly 20K chain I put in it, there seems to be absolutely no difference at all.

So, two conclusions.
First : both chains are good, in spite of the high miles on the original.
Second: both chains are bad, in spite of the assurances as to the mileage on the newer one.

The second is the only logical one, since there is a lot of noise from from that area.

The tensioner also seems to be a totally rubbish design; biggest problem is I don't know what the original shape of it should be. I mean, whether is is worn out or not. Very difficult to tell from the drawings.

So I've had to bite the bullet here.

The tensioner blade is a discontinued part (of course!) and you really don't want to know the price of a OEM chain :shock: :shock: . (oh, all right then. Sit down first! 227 euros/$ 330 )

New tensioner blade coming in from that amazing guy Peter Janssen at http://www.pietparts.nl/. He always seems to have the most obscure parts, and at the right price too.
New non-OEM primary chain coming from David Silver.
With that lot plus the gaskets etc bang goes another nearly 200Pounds / $330 !
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WOW :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Just a quicky.

Someone asked a long while ago it the tensioner from the late model fits the earlier one.
Well, I tried mine in the old cases and, if you can find one, it bolts straight in
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Old Fogey wrote:Just a quicky.

Someone asked a long while ago it the tensioner from the late model fits the earlier one.
Well, I tried mine in the old cases and, if you can find one, it bolts straight in
Waaaaay back in my mind it seems like I recall a conversation that the 1100 tensioner was much improved and was a bolt in. Too many brain cells destroyed since than to be anything close to sure but worth checking out?
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if you wait a couple of weeks, i've got 1100 tensioners you could sneek back on carryon luggage
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Whiskerfish wrote:
Old Fogey wrote:Just a quicky.

Someone asked a long while ago it the tensioner from the late model fits the earlier one.
Well, I tried mine in the old cases and, if you can find one, it bolts straight in
Waaaaay back in my mind it seems like I recall a conversation that the 1100 tensioner was much improved and was a bolt in. Too many brain cells destroyed since than to be anything close to sure but worth checking out?
Now he tells me! :shock:

Seriously, that could be good to know.

The 1100 tensioner part numbers are certainly different but I think the cases are pretty much the same in that area so I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was the case.

Just a shame I've already got the 1000 blade coming! Though, it wasn't too dear so.................

CYBORG wrote:if you wait a couple of weeks, i've got 1100 tensioners you could sneek back on carryon luggage
Doug, that could be the idea!

Just checked out the availability if the 1100 stuff; like unicorn droppings! No better to find than the 1000 parts( although again, Peter has an 1100 blade! the guy's amazing!).

Since time is drawing so near for the trip, the amount of riding I could get in now after putting it all back together would make very little difference, so I will probably do just that.
I'll get it all painted up ready and I can move the 1000 tensioner on to someone who needs it.
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If you end up needing a gear or such I have various ones around. Carry on mate!
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The new primary chain arrived today (along with a new starter chain).

Had to get stuck in and fit it, but I took some pics of the 'good' 79 one in situ first.

This is me pushing down hard on it.


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Pulling it up to it's max.


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There was no way this was right. Look how it could be lifted nearly off the sprocket!
Yes, I know the tensioner would have taken a little of that slack up, but when I got my finger into the final drive gear hole in the right case while it was still built up, I could feel the looseness of the chain.



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This is the new chain fitted. It is tight enough that there is actually a slight tension on it already when the cases are put together!


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Seeing this, the sprung tensioner, which I still think is a poor design, begins to make a good deal more sense.

Still waiting for the new tensioner blade to arrive, although I have a mind to fit the improved 1100 one.
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Wow, what a huge difference John.
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This post is a bit out of place here but ............

Well, Steve's post on the route generated not one reply!
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20538

I put a post in the discussions forum that was promptly removed by Roady to the Runs forum that I still believe no-one reads.

Annoyed about that!

The Runs forum is too far removed from the rest of the main forums in the index and I don't believe that folk scroll down that far.

I know this from the results I had when the trip was first posted.

I've put a couple of new bits up in the hope of re-generating some interest but, hey, at the end of the day if no-one wants to join in, we'll have a great time anyway.
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Are you havin' a bad day? ;)

Didn't mean to upset you, I'm just trying to help.

Just a little over four weeks and we can sort this out over a nice stout. Not too cold, please.
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