I'm trying to purchase carb vacuum barbs locally. The motion pro brass ones are $11 on amazon prime but is like to get them sooner. Apparently, 10-32 thread fit 5mm just fine.
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Help: Runs worse after timing
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- groupus
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Re: Help: Runs worse after timing
The pilot screws are not broken, but adjusting them in and out does nothing.
I'm trying to purchase carb vacuum barbs locally. The motion pro brass ones are $11 on amazon prime but is like to get them sooner. Apparently, 10-32 thread fit 5mm just fine.
I'm trying to purchase carb vacuum barbs locally. The motion pro brass ones are $11 on amazon prime but is like to get them sooner. Apparently, 10-32 thread fit 5mm just fine.
Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death. ~Hunter Thompson
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every now and then, when things are not going to well in the shop, i ask myself why i do it. and the answer is that riding is good....but time in the shop is also good. - CYBORG
78 gl1000 cafe build: http://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=51461
79 full fairing - current status: Haunted http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60334
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Re: Help: Runs worse after timing
That usually means idle circuit and or pilot jet is plugged.groupus wrote:snip.............The pilot screws are not broken, but adjusting them in and out does nothing.![]()
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1976 Goldwing Super Sport
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1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
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1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: Help: Runs worse after timing
Carbs need to come off and get cleans.......that's what it will take to fix the problem
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Re: Help: Runs worse after timing
Not that I won't end up tearing the buggers off and cleaning them all over again, but I find it hard to believe because I have cleaned these carbs 3 times, prodded all of the orifices with wire, polished, dipped, boiled, you name it. AND it did exactly the same thing with the other set of carbs, which i pulled apart after and there were no obstructions to be found. I cleaned my rebuild-able fuel filter and installed a second in-line filter before putting the fresh carbs on. Now I know how Sisyphus feels.
Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death. ~Hunter Thompson
every now and then, when things are not going to well in the shop, i ask myself why i do it. and the answer is that riding is good....but time in the shop is also good. - CYBORG
78 gl1000 cafe build: http://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=51461
79 full fairing - current status: Haunted http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60334
every now and then, when things are not going to well in the shop, i ask myself why i do it. and the answer is that riding is good....but time in the shop is also good. - CYBORG
78 gl1000 cafe build: http://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=51461
79 full fairing - current status: Haunted http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60334
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Re: Help: Runs worse after timing
There is a theory about folks who do the same thing over an d over, expecting different results . It sounds like a carb problem,....but maybe not
1978 custom GL1000
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
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Re: Help: Runs worse after timing
Maybe give someone else a shot at cleaning them
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Re: Help: Runs worse after timing
Yeah, the symptoms you describe point to idle circuit obstruction 99%, or more, of the time. Sorry.
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1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: Help: Runs worse after timing
And if so, a look inside the tank is warranted. Use a mirror and look at the top of the tank. They can look great on the lower 3/4 of the tank and be covered in rust on the top.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi

